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re: Does Manning's legacy survive this?

Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by Rebelfan1985
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:03 pm to
God he has to get a hold of his alcohol problem


Posted by Korin
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:03 pm to
Peyton now has 3 TDs to 6 turnovers in his 3 SB appearances.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by Prof
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:13 pm to
^That's fairly accurate. Complete with no o-line bothering to stop the hawks coming after him.

Posted by Rebelfan1985
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:15 pm to
Peyton is like the Atlanta braves of the 90s and early 2000s,

Tear it up in the regular season, choke in the postseason.

And the only reason the braves got one title is because they played a sports town more cursed than Atlanta, Cleveland

The only reason Peyton won a superbowl is because he played one of the worst superbowl teams led by rex grossman, that bears team was jekyll and Hyde. Rex was either really good or extremely bad week to week. Peyton played bad and still won.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 10:20 pm to
Found another gem in the OTB..

Posted by Rebelfan1985
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Posted on 2/2/14 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by droliver
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 12:32 am to
This loss will keep him out of the GOAT discussion. He is a notch below the Unitas, Montana, & Brady group unless he wins another.
Posted by RocketBallz
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 2:29 am to
This is his legacy. Super stats guy that usually fails in post season. It further cements exactly what he is. I'd put him in the top 10, but his post season track record pretty much disqualifies him from consideration for GOAT.

His teams are always so focused on him that they eventually run into a team good enough to shut him down. Works most of the time except when it matters most.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 7:36 am to
No, he's a complete and utter failure! By the way, how's Freddie Kitchens doing?
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 8:27 am to
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Bad game for sure but not horrible. He's not even close to being the reason they are getting beaten down.

his inability to move, much less move out of the pocket really didn't help the cause
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:11 am to
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That's retarded. Steve Nash has 4 MVPs and nobody talks about him as the top anything.


4 is the new 2
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:15 am to
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He is a choker in the playoffs.

A choker in the playoffs doesn't make it to 3 superbowls
Posted by Forkbeard3777
Chicago
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:55 am to
This definitely drops him out of the GOAT consideration. I can't look past his faults in big games (particularly Super Bowl). It dates back to his days at Tennessee. He just struggled to win the majority of the big games.

His Super Bowl stats:

Indianapolis Colts vs. Chicago Bears:
25/38 247 yards 1 touchdown 1 interception
Colts - 29 Bears - 17

Indianapolis Colts vs. New Orleans Saints
31/45 333 yards 1 touchdown 1 interception for touchdown
Saints - 31 Colts - 17

Denver Broncos vs. Seattle Seahawks
34/49 280 yards 1 touchdown 2 interceptions [1 being for a touchdown] and 1 fumble. This game could have been a lot worse as well. Seattle was really backing off and playing prevent towards the end.

I can't look past these. His regular season numbers are unreal. Yet, if he was in the NFC playing against Arizona, San Francisco, Seattle, St. Louis's defensive line and such, these numbers would not be as high.

Bottom line, he's a great quarterback with a Super Bowl victory. GOAT? No. He has too much going against his record.
This post was edited on 2/3/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
27567 posts
Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:56 am to
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A choker in the playoffs doesn't make it to 3 superbowls
Peyton Manning is 11-12 in playoff games. He's accounted for twice as many turnovers in Super Bowls as TDs. He's a choker.
Posted by SettleDown
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/3/14 at 9:57 am to
I'm not certain this required another thread.
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