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re: Divide between Cavs and Blatt
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:53 pm to RTR America
Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:53 pm to RTR America
quote:Without coming out and saying, they simply did not care about rebounding.
I'm still amazed how they were able to make up for their rebounding deficiencies
It was a really awesome team to watch in terms of how they changed the game. Going small, not caring about rebounding. It's not how teams have won lately, it was interesting for more than the obvious reasons we talk about.
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 2:59 pm to RonBurgundy
David Blatt just needs to bring back the band and get JR Holden, Viktor Khryapa and AK-47's Back Tattoo.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:00 pm to RTR America
I'm just saying that it isn't lazy to see some similarities between the Heat and Cavs (Lebron being the one) and comparing the two. Sure there are enough differences that the Heat's trajectory is not likely to mirror the Cavs; I just took issue with you saying that there it is lazy to compare the two.
Sure it's not exactly the middle, but it's far enough into the season to fall into the second quartile of the season; so mid-season is appropriate enough. Regardless, the point is that it took them some time to mesh.
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25 games is not mid-season
Sure it's not exactly the middle, but it's far enough into the season to fall into the second quartile of the season; so mid-season is appropriate enough. Regardless, the point is that it took them some time to mesh.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:07 pm to RonBurgundy
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also had Love not pulled out due to the imminent trade, Kyrie and Love would have played all summer together.
My point is that Lebron, Wade, and Bosh had familiarity with each other. Essential there are four basketball relationships that can be formed from three players; three dyads (e.g., Lebron——Wade, Lebron——Bosh, Wade——Bosh) and one triad (e.g., Lebron——Wade——Bosh). The international play allowed all three of those relationships developed for the original big three. Only the Lebron——Love relationship has been developed internationally this time around.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:09 pm to shel311
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guys like Irving/Love who just aren't good at defense
Kyrie's defense has been better than Brons up to this point.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:13 pm to shel311
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Without coming out and saying, they simply did not care about rebounding.
I agree with your overall point, but, for clarification, I wouldn't say that they didn't care about rebounding. Instead, I would say that their offensive philosophy made rebounding more difficult (i.e., smaller players, spread out) and rebounding was not as important as those other aspects of their philosophy.
I see it like a football team that has a defensive philosophy of shutting down the run first and foremost; they still want to stop the pass but it's not as important as stopping the run. Defenses geared to stopping the run may be a bit more vulnerable against the pass, but they still care about the pass.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:18 pm to shel311
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Love vs Bosh - Last season I took lots of flack for stating over and over how overrated Love was while folks had him as a top 5 lock mostly on the MSB. I said last season Bosh was just as good as Love, but I was wrong. He's better than Love, when factoring in the enormous difference on defense. Hell, he was basically Love statistically before going to Miami, so it's not a crazy statement.
You're not wrong, but to compare the two as similar players is a little bit of a farce. Love is more of a Dirk. Bosh is an evolved stretch 5. Bosh has always defended the rim in some form or fashion in his NBA career. Love has never been a rim protector.
Love is a better shooter than Bosh, so the real "trade-in" was surrounding James with more shooters, which suggests the 4 out 1 in/ 3 out 2 in spacing.
If LeBron was posting up more (clearly with the weight loss that idea was to bang less, despite LeBron on the left block had been the most unstoppable force in the NBA) then this would be great.
But right now, LeBron is shooting 8 FGs a game with 3-7+ dribbles and half of that fall onto the 7+ side.
7 pull-up jumpers a game
33% time he has the ball he holds for over 6 seconds.
He's holding on to the ball too much
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:21 pm to philabuck
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Kyrie's defense has been better than Brons up to this point.
While I think that Kyrie's defense has improved this year while Lebron's has regressed, most of the defensie stats that I could find (e.g., Defensive Real Plus/Minus, Defensive Box Plus/Minus, Defensive Win Shares) have Lebron ahead of Kyrie.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:21 pm to RonBurgundy
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That guy can clearly coach.
People keep saying this, what's it based on?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:24 pm to D011ahbi11
You don't win Euro-League's and National Team Competitions unless you know X's and O's. To paraphrase Sir Charles "In the Non-NBA game, everybody is Joe", while some teams do have a large talent pool, to make it far in Euro-League you have to be able to coach, as you aren't going to have an MJ, Bron, or some otherworldy talent to bail you out. So it's much more strategy based.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:24 pm to RonBurgundy
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If LeBron was posting up more (clearly with the weight loss that idea was to bang less, despite LeBron on the left block had been the most unstoppable force in the NBA) then this would be great.
I agree with you on this.
I hope (unlikely though) his weight loss regiment in the off-season was meant to slowly put on more weight as the season progressed and his game would adapt accordingly
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:27 pm to Jelly
Not to say the NBA is devoid of actual X and O talent. Just that generally the X's and O's don't really become a factor until the playoffs. Regular Season is much more personality& personnel management. Mark Jackson where ya at?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:28 pm to Jelly
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You don't win Euro-League's and National Team Competitions unless you know X's and O's. To
....which is only part of what it takes to be successful as a NBA coach.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:29 pm to Jelly
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You don't win Euro-League's and National Team Competitions unless you know X's and O's. To paraphrase Sir Charles "In the Non-NBA game, everybody is Joe", while some teams do have a large talent pool, to make it far in Euro-League you have to be able to coach, as you aren't going to have an MJ, Bron, or some otherworldy talent to bail you out. So it's much more strategy based.
I trust the opinion of those with more knowledge that Blatt is great coach; however, I think some people discounted the fact that there will be growing pains for a new coach, even one with his potential. Just like a great player with a high ceiling transitioning from college or overseas, or a great coach transitioning from the college game, adjusting one's skills to the nuances of the NBA will take some time. Not to mention, unlike say Steve Kerr, this transition is happening while the players themselves are going through a similar transition in terms of team chemistry.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:29 pm to brgfather129
Sometimes, its like people don't read posts from the beginning of the thread. But yes the NBA is talent and therefore Star-based. So you have to be a reader of people to make it work, Mark Jackson where ya at.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:40 pm to Jelly
I am agreeing with you, you need to be able to read the players, motivate them, and control the locker room...that's the difference between assistant and head coach material, it goes beyond the X's and O's.
I also don't put it past the media to simply create a story, particularly when it involves a team with LeBron.
I also don't put it past the media to simply create a story, particularly when it involves a team with LeBron.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:45 pm to brgfather129
Fair enough.
Speaking of media stories, was there ever any fall-out with Dion Waiters sitting out the National Anthem? Is he still doing that, or is it just a non-issue?
Speaking of media stories, was there ever any fall-out with Dion Waiters sitting out the National Anthem? Is he still doing that, or is it just a non-issue?
Posted on 12/29/14 at 3:52 pm to Jelly
I guess the final "story" is that Dion goes to the locker room to pray and that night he lost track of time. Dion said he missed the national anthem because of his religion (he prayed too long) and the reporter thought that his religion prevented him from attending the national anthem.
Not sure which side is true, but if you listen to Dion speak you could understand why there would be a misunderstanding
Not sure which side is true, but if you listen to Dion speak you could understand why there would be a misunderstanding
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