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re: Did New Orleans ever come close to landing an MLB team in the past?

Posted on 11/15/13 at 7:26 am to
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 7:26 am to
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City is not nearly big enough. You need an urban area with at least a few millions


According to the Braves, this is not true. They are moving to the outskirts of town, saying their support comes from the northern suburbs.

Check out the 35 page thread on this.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 7:42 am to
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City is not nearly big enough. You need an urban area with at least a few millions


Eh, Milwaukee is that smallest metro area with a MLB team. And it's not much bigger than New Orleans metro area. It's also smack dab in the middle of the league in terms of percentage attendance.

No reason to think that if New Orleans had a MLB team since the late 60's with some success that the city wouldn't support them now.

It might be tough to attract a team now, but it is kind of odd that they never got one.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 8:33 am to
St. Louis had a great ABA team. Spirits of St. Louis
Posted by chillygentilly
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 8:39 am to
Found an old AP article from 1989 about baseball exhibitions in the Dome. LINK

quote:

The Baltimore Orioles were ready to move to New Orleans in 1974, but the Superdome Commission couldn't guarantee the stadium would be finished in time. That left businessman Joe Canizaro -the principal money man in the search- red-faced in anger and embarrassment.
Posted by hobotiger
Asbury Park, NJ
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 8:53 am to
But the stadiums that are consistently sold old hold less than 50k. Wrigley holds less then 40k and Fenway is smaller.

Baseball in the dome was bad, I went to many Pelican games there and it was not a pleasant place for baseball. If a team would have move here we would have lost them long before now
This post was edited on 11/15/13 at 8:54 am
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 9:07 am to
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The Zephyrs do not even have 200 people on some nights come to their games.


I went to a Zephyr game back in August when I was in town with a friend. I went to buy tickets and he stopped me and said just wait. We stood there for 5 minutes and he just kept asking people if they were giving away tickets. Some lady just gave us 4 tickets no money exchanged. I was baffled by it but my friend says he's never paid to go to a game.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 9:10 am to
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Professional sports today is all about corporate sponsors buying the tix.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 9:15 am to
The only reason could possibly support a team is because of baseball season being during good tourism months.

Even then, the smallest city with 3 of the 4 major sports is Pitt and they are twice the size of the NOLA metro area and have a rabid sports following(sans pirates )

Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
47811 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 9:45 am to
That's why if we had one our stadium would need to be in metry by causeway and i10... I'd expect our ticket buyers to come from metry, uptown, the river parishes, and the northshore
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 9:50 am to
quote:

According to the Braves, this is not true. They are moving to the outskirts of town, saying their support comes from the northern suburbs.

Check out the 35 page thread on this


Urban area includes the city and suburbs...the population of the city of Atlanta isn't significant but the metro is massive. NO urban area is just over 1M, you can't compare it to ATL with a metro 5X as big
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:00 am to
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Urban area includes the city and suburbs...


Never heard this in this context.

With that definition, of course you can't compare.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75266 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:03 am to
Could NOLA support an NHL team?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:17 am to
The Superdome as a baseball venue was a joke.

We had a minor league team in 76. Pelicans 2.0. It did not make it. And I forget if it's left or right field that was like 250 feet. Slight exaggeration, but not by much.

If the city would have pulled off the A's, they would have to have had a real stadium by the 1990s or else it would have been over.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:22 am to
Well if Winnipeg can...

But when we got the nba that ship sailed...
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75266 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:25 am to
Exactly, several NHL teams are in small markets.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:31 am to
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several NHL teams are in small markets.


NHL is a weird animal.

There seems to be a lot more to it than attendance. Atlanta has lost 2 teams to very small markets, Calgary and Winnipeg.

The interest in both teams here was good. Ownership sucked badly, especially with the Thrashers. Attendance for the Thrashers was not good, but it was more a function of a terrible team. Winnipeg is sold out, but their numbers are low because their arena is small.

So, to answer your question, it is possible, but who knows?
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:34 am to
Atlanta lost 2 nhl teams?
Posted by chillygentilly
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Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:35 am to
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NHL is a weird animal.

There seems to be a lot more to it than attendance. Atlanta has lost 2 teams to very small markets, Calgary and Winnipeg.


Is it really that weird that Atlanta lost two hockey franchises to Canadian cities?
Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:36 am to
Lafayette drew 5-10 K a night with the Ice Gators for many years.

One of life's great mysteries.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 11/15/13 at 10:38 am to
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Is it really that weird that Atlanta lost two hockey franchises to Canadian cities?


In a vacuum, no.

But Dallas, Phoenix, Nashville and Tampa still have teams. And there is more to it than just attendance.
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