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Did Louisville Once Again Expose the Elite SEC Defenses?
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:39 pm
So I've said for a while that these SEC defenses were overrated and simply the product of mediocre QB play and offensive creativity. Now this isn't to say they're not good, they're very good. However, people making it out like there are 5-6 Steel Curtains in the SEC each year are absurd.
It's been proven time and time again that when you spread these SEC defenses out that good QB play can take advantage of them. These defenses are insolated by a conference that plays its games in a phone booth and isn't dynamic offensively.
A basketball program that couldn't even win the Big East outright just skulldrug Florida's dominant defense. Louisville needed 3 Overtimes to break 20 against UCONN, and no we're not talking about basketball, yet they threw the ball all over Florida.
Tajh Boyd looked like Johhny Football going for almost 350 yards and accounting for 3 TDs. Johnny Manziel (I'm talking about their style of offense which is unique for the SEC, I obviously know Texas A&M is in the SEC) torched Alabama in BDS.
My question is (and I know it took a while to get here), does this year change your perception of last year in regards to the LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State argument?
Oklahoma State was better on offense than any of the aforementioned teams who had great success against vaunted SEC defenses. They had a more seasoned, talented QB in Weeden, a bigger playmaker in Blackmon, and a seasoned OL.
I always thought (and I think most agreed) that Oklahoma State was more deserving on paper, but that Alabama and LSU were simply better. I'm not sure if I still agree with that. I think they could have spread either of those teams out and had a ton of success. What do yal think?
It's been proven time and time again that when you spread these SEC defenses out that good QB play can take advantage of them. These defenses are insolated by a conference that plays its games in a phone booth and isn't dynamic offensively.
A basketball program that couldn't even win the Big East outright just skulldrug Florida's dominant defense. Louisville needed 3 Overtimes to break 20 against UCONN, and no we're not talking about basketball, yet they threw the ball all over Florida.
Tajh Boyd looked like Johhny Football going for almost 350 yards and accounting for 3 TDs. Johnny Manziel (I'm talking about their style of offense which is unique for the SEC, I obviously know Texas A&M is in the SEC) torched Alabama in BDS.
My question is (and I know it took a while to get here), does this year change your perception of last year in regards to the LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State argument?
Oklahoma State was better on offense than any of the aforementioned teams who had great success against vaunted SEC defenses. They had a more seasoned, talented QB in Weeden, a bigger playmaker in Blackmon, and a seasoned OL.
I always thought (and I think most agreed) that Oklahoma State was more deserving on paper, but that Alabama and LSU were simply better. I'm not sure if I still agree with that. I think they could have spread either of those teams out and had a ton of success. What do yal think?
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Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:41 pm to FootballNostradamus
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My question is (and I know it took a while to get here), does this year change your perception of last year in regards to the LSU, Alabama, Oklahoma State argument?
No. This year =/= last year. Had Alabama had last year's defense this year, they'd be 13-0 and -17 against Notre Dame in the BCS National Championship right now.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:42 pm to FootballNostradamus
No. Bowl games can be bull shite in certain circumstances. A team that was close to a NC has been let down, and players that are declaring dont want to get hurt. If last night was a NC game Florida would have smoked them.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:42 pm to FootballNostradamus
Last year Oklahoma State>LSU>Alabama
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:43 pm to FootballNostradamus
I think it just proved UF had a highly overrated secondary.
UF's front 7 actually played fairly decent last night.
But Louisville's WR's were just running all over them.
UF's front 7 actually played fairly decent last night.
But Louisville's WR's were just running all over them.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:43 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Last year Oklahoma State>LSU>Alabama
Oklahoma St would have been destroyed by either team in the NC.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:43 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Last year Oklahoma State>LSU>Alabama
Well this surely wasn't true.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:44 pm to boXerrumble
Yeah...Florida put Louisville into a lot of 3rd & long situations last night because of their ability to stop the run. However, when Bridgewater needed to make a play with his arm, he'd make a play. That secondary just wasn't as good as advertised.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:44 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Last year Oklahoma State>LSU>Alabama
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:44 pm to tigerbaittrick
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A team that was close to a NC has been let down, and players that are declaring dont want to get hurt. If last night was a NC game Florida would have smoked them.
Play that game whenever/wherever you want and Louisville wins. If that's not plain as day to you then you should pickup a different sport. Louisville killed Florida. It should've been a 20 point win with ease.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:45 pm to tigerbaittrick
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No. Bowl games can be bull shite in certain circumstances. A team that was close to a NC has been let down, and players that are declaring dont want to get hurt. If last night was a NC game Florida would have smoked them.
I don't think you can say Florida's defense tanked that game last night. They came out hitting those Louisville players pretty hard. How many Louisville players lost their damn helmet last night? I think the fire was there but Florida's offense just sucked.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:45 pm to lsuhunt555
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Oklahoma St would have been destroyed by either team in the NC.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:46 pm to FootballNostradamus
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Well this surely wasn't true.
LSU beat Alabama on the road>Alabama winning a rematch in bowl game
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:46 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Last year Iowa State>Oklahoma State>LSU>Alabama
Must obviously be true then.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:46 pm to FootballNostradamus
quote:You must have watched a different game than I did
If that's not plain as day to you then you should pickup a different sport. Louisville killed Florida. It should've been a 20 point win with ease.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:47 pm to FootballNostradamus
I mean they had a pick 6, a fumble recovery in the red zone, and great files position bc of the onside attempt. And they scored 33
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:47 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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LSU beat Alabama on the road>Alabama winning a rematch in bowl game
Anal rapage > 9-6
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:47 pm to LooseCannon22282
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Florida's offense just sucked.
Well, this isn't really news to people that watched us all season...
What IS news is the fact that Louisville completely shredded the #1 pass efficiency defense in the country.
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:50 pm to boXerrumble
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Well, this isn't really news to people that watched us all season...
oh yeah, I knew they weren't all that good but their incompetence was a key in the loss last night. If Florida's defense had any help at all last night from their offense. We may not be talking about this today.
This post was edited on 1/3/13 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 1/3/13 at 2:51 pm to Tiger1242
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I mean they had a pick 6, a fumble recovery in the red zone, and great files position bc of the onside attempt. And they scored 33
They also had the ball inside Florida's 10 twice and didn't come away with points because of penalties (once was on the fumble recovery that you mentioned).
The game wasn't even close. The only time Florida moved the ball was on gadget plays.
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