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re: Did Kobe do it with the least amount of talent around him?

Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:39 am to
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:39 am to
Intentional fouls happen to all shitty foul shooters when running out of time.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:43 am to
Some teams did it to Shaq throughout the game. Not just late in the game.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:44 am to
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Shaq (He was solid, but he required good passing to be effective, could never do it alone.)


Wait a minute..... Wait a minute.......... Wait a minute............Wait a minute...............Wait a minute...............WTF is this shite? lol Its like saying Kevin McHale didn't have any help on those Celtics teams. I know its a troll, but shite like this still needs to be called out. So no.

Hakeem's first title is probably the best answer and even he had a good TEAM around him, just no other superstars.
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75602 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:52 am to
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He was solid,


Shaq was a little more than solid
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52283 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 11:53 am to
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Shaq (He was solid, but he required good passing to be effective, could never do it alone.)


You serious?
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20727 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:03 pm to
I would say the 03-04 pistons.


Depth chart

C Ben Wallace Elden Campbell Darko Milicic
PF Rasheed Wallace Mehmet Okur
SF Tayshaun Prince Corliss Williamson Darvin Ham
SG Richard Hamilton
PG Chauncey Billups Lindsey Hunter Mike James
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:08 pm to
None of those pistons guys were hall of famers, but most of those guys were all stars at some point. All five starters at some point I believe. Really, who would even be the guy that you said didn't have any help? lol
This post was edited on 6/22/14 at 12:09 pm
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20727 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:09 pm to
Billiups
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:20 pm to
Ben Wallace - Wallace won the NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award in the 2001–02, 2002–03, 2004–05, and 2005–06 seasons, and was selected to six All-Defensive teams. In the 2001–02 and 2002–03 seasons, he led the league in both rebounds and blocked shots, the first to do so since Hakeem Olajuwon. In 2003, he was voted by fans to the first of his four NBA All-Star Game appearances as a center for the Eastern Conference.

Rasheed Wallace - NBA champion (2004)
4× NBA All-Star (2000, 2001, 2006, 2008)

Tayshon Prince - NBA champion (2004)
4× NBA All-Defensive Second Team (2005–2008). Also Played on Team USA a few times.

Rip Hamilton - NBA champion (2004)
3× NBA All-Star (2006–2008)

Actually I'm a little surprised Tayshon was never an all star
This post was edited on 6/22/14 at 12:25 pm
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
20727 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:26 pm to
Yeah but which one could you put on the 2009 or 2010 lakers team in place of Kobe and still be able to win a championship.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:29 pm to
None of them, including Billups. That was my point, they were a really good team full of all stars, but no real super star. But the roster was loaded with talent.
Posted by roguetiger15
Member since Jan 2013
16179 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:29 pm to
What about Larry bird?
Posted by MusicMaster
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
1362 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Shaq (He was solid, but he required good passing to be effective




Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36707 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:38 pm to
Solid troll attempt.
Posted by Matisyeezy
End of the bar, Drunk
Member since Feb 2012
16624 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:42 pm to
You are dumb.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29870 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 12:52 pm to
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What about Larry bird?


Might want to read what I wrote again.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14465 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:01 pm to
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Shaq (He was solid, but he required good passing to be effective, could never do it alone.)



good lord....
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Marc has never been as good as Pau when he was at his peak.


Yes he is. Pau is a better scorer, I'll give you that. And a lot of people don't remember how good Pau really was. He was a great PF. But, Marc is a better player overall IMO. Better passer, just as good of a rebounder, and ok a diff level defensively than Pau.

It's close, no doubt. But if I had to chose 1 in their prime I'll take Marc. Due to his offensive skill set, passing ability, and his defense.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71355 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:06 pm to
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What about Larry bird?


McHale, Ainge, and Parrish.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22817 posts
Posted on 6/22/14 at 1:07 pm to
Odom, Gasol, and Bynum were the best big man rotation in the league at the time.
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