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re: Did ESPN really just transition

Posted on 8/3/13 at 7:57 am to
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117732 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 7:57 am to
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Wounds? Really? From the n-word?


The hundreds of years of slavery everybody read about in high school and college history cuts to the bone man. To the bone, I tell ya..
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103152 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 7:58 am to
exactly. words are cheap and don't mean shite to me. call me a honkey or whatever your worst insult can be. I will move on with my life and let the chips fall where they may.


I'm sick of this idea that saying racist or offensive words is the absolute unforgivable sin. So What. Rise above it.
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21016 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 8:03 am to
Seriously. Don't call me a honkey
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32802 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 8:05 am to
What sucks is that you don't go on trial for racial slurs, yet you are convicted to a life sentence as a racist by the media.. with little to no chance of exoneration.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 8:22 am to
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This nation has regressed. He said the N-word. This is not news worthy.
He made a violent threat against a person of authority and used degrading language while doing it, and the video of his doing to is public.

You are right. Using a word is not newsworthy.

I am right: making a violent threat against a person of authority while using racial language is newsworthy.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 8:23 am to
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What sucks is that you don't go on trial for racial slurs, yet you are convicted to a life sentence as a racist by the media.. with little to no chance of exoneration.
So don't talk like that in public.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 8:28 am to
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He made a violent threat against a person of authority and used degrading language while doing it, and the video of his doing to is public.



He was angry with a security guard and said the one word he knew would piss the guy off.

Here's a question for you, what should happen to NFL players who use gay slurs on the actual field of play?
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32802 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 8:29 am to
I agree that he's an idiot for his behavior.. but the backlash of his comments is more than he should endure.

Chris Culliver got to keep his job after making homophobic comments to the media.

I realize that this was in a violent context, and that there are far more black players in the NFL than there are gay (assuming), so if that's the reasoning for the excessive amount of coverage, I can at least see that side of the argument. I still don't necessarily agree, however.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48852 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 8:58 am to
As long as blacks use the word in daily conversation referring to each other, I cannot take matters such as Cooper's seriously.

Shame on ESPN for making this national news that won't go away.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:09 am to
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He was angry with a security guard and said the one word he knew would piss the guy off.

Correct. And he is being publicly shamed for it. And it's completely fair.
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what should happen to NFL players who use gay slurs on the actual field of play?
Irrelevant to Cooper's situation. Threatening a person of authority in public and namecalling an opponent during gameplay are not the same.
This post was edited on 8/3/13 at 9:12 am
Posted by The Eric
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21016 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:15 am to
When Kobe said Gay or fig or whatever (which doesn't bother me at all) he had to apologize but no one would have ever said "he's gonna lose his job over it"
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
203337 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:17 am to
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From a Darren Daulton reference about him dealing with brain cancer.... To "healing the wounds caused by Riley Cooper's words"? Are you fricking kidding me?



Sad indeed........
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:20 am to
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When Kobe said Gay or fig or whatever (which doesn't bother me at all) he had to apologize but no one would have ever said "he's gonna lose his job over it"
That doesn't matter. What Kobe did and what Cooper did are not the same, regardless of the histories of blacks and whites and gays. One of the reasons I would never have jumped on Paula Deen or Dog the Bounty Hunter for their "N's" is because the contexts of the things they said were harmless. Considering the context of what Cooper said, it was a threat of violence in a public gathering, even without "****." The context of what Cooper said couldn't have been worse. Therefore, frick him.
This post was edited on 8/3/13 at 9:22 am
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:24 am to
This isn't about rectifying an injustice and equality . It's about power - and you can't achieve it without a continued division of race, religion and financial worth.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:28 am to
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This isn't about rectifying an injustice and equality . It's about power - and you can't achieve it without a continued division of race, religion and financial worth.
There are a lot of people on this board who seem to be bunching this Cooper thing in with other people who have casually or jokingly said something socially unacceptable. Cooper's context was specifically violent, and that's what makes it different from the others.

Paula Deen? Harmless.
Dog? Harmless.
White guy saying "You my ****, dawg."? Harmless.

Cooper saying "I will jump that fence and fight every **** here."? Violent racial threat.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36720 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:35 am to
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Not only are they alienating our age but my 7 year old loves baseball and constantly watches the MLB network. He told me espn talks too much and that he wants to see highlights.

If true give your kid a high five for me.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 9:51 am to
Too many Phillies brain cancer. dutch. vuk.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
62069 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 10:34 am to
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I will jump that fence and fight every n***** here


Honest question, I have only followed this story on here...

How many "n*****" were over that fence? Wasn't this a Kenny Chesney concert? My only guess is that maybe the security guard was black.
Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9282 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 10:44 am to
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As long as blacks use the word in daily conversation referring to each other, I cannot take matters such as Cooper's seriously


This x10000

The double standard is what I can't stand.

And what made the N-word more unspeakable by a white to black, than a black calling a white Honkey or cracka?

Each are negative words given to one race by another race to degrade them. Why is the one so much worse?
Posted by Srbtiger06
Member since Apr 2006
28270 posts
Posted on 8/3/13 at 12:54 pm to
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Too many Phillies brain cancer. dutch. vuk.


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