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re: Dick's Sporting Goods Fires 500+ Golf Pros

Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75168 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:23 pm to
Tiger effect wore off around 2007

Great Recession didn't help

Taylor Made and other companies releasing a new driver every 6 months is asinine

Golf needs help
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:27 pm to
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yeah ... someone who shoots 90 every time out ain't gonna shoot 80 cause they bought new clubs that are more forgiving than the cast irons he already has ... better clubs, i.e. a better fit for their game or a better fit for their weaknesses, will help the 75 guy more than the 90 guy ...


sure, but you said it won't help one bit


if the guy is playing some hand me down clubs that don't fit him at all, new clubs could certainly help him shave some strokes


new clubs help everyone, but the proper fit is key, even if you aren't a single digit handicap



just because you're cool enough to shoot 75 on the internet with some 10 year old clubs, doesnt mean that new forgiving irons aren't gonna help someone new to the game

Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25275 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:28 pm to
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maybe its just the crowd I associate myself with, but I disagree with both of these points


Yeah, I suppose it varies based on personal experience. I think differentiating between the hardcore golfer and the casual golfer is important.

Personally, I just don't see a lot of young people buying clubs in stores - whether it's a retailer, a pro shop, or wherever. It brings the Amazon/Ebay discussion to the forefront as well.

I do think golf is a broad game (young and old play), but to me is seems like the older crowd is more all-consuming (buying products, playing with more regularity, watching on TV).
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:38 pm to
how many get fitted for clubs? ...

and no one's trying to brag about their golf game ... good grief ... it's a debate ...

Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:40 pm to
As said throughout the thread, I don't think that your regular players are buying equipment every year, especially your better golfers. Another major issue with buying at Dick's is how you try the club. Nobody should want to hit off a mat into a screen. Especially when the screen is telling you that you are hitting 30+yards further than normal. Most of the guys I know go to a high end range to try the product at their golf shop. Then they go buy them online for less with the correct fit.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34625 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:47 pm to
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Those who play or watch golf are generally a higher class of people.


This attitude refutes your point.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:52 pm to
i said getting fitted makes more impact, but I don't think its a requirement


newer clubs with larger sweet spots are gonna create better shots.....I don't think you can argue that


quote:

and no one's trying to brag about their golf game


you are the one dropping handicaps in this thread

Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25275 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 4:59 pm to
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Most of the guys I know go to a high end range to try the product at their golf shop. Then they go buy them online for less with the correct fit.


Does Dick's let you try clubs for free? I've honestly never asked.

A lot of the small chains (like Nevada Bobs) charge fitting fees and let you roll the fitting costs back into store credit.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:02 pm to
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A lot of the small chains (like Nevada Bobs) charge fitting fees and let you roll the fitting costs back into store credit.


more places need to do this to dissuade people from going hit a few drivers with no intention of purchasing at the retail store


I'm guilty of it several times, but I typically try to not leave without buying a glove, or some balls

I can't tell you the last club I paid retail for, even though I buy a new driver and new irons once a year or more on average
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:02 pm to
I love the comments from people who have no idea about the business and what really happened.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:03 pm to
come enlighten us with all of the extensive knowledge you have about dicks
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:06 pm to
As a person who worked there as a pro I do have extensive knowledge. In fact I worked directly with the VP of operations.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:08 pm to
I know

So tell us what really happened
Posted by mommas boy
Member since Sep 2012
2234 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

come enlighten us with all of the extensive knowledge you have about dicks
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16556 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:11 pm to
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As a person who worked there as a pro I do have extensive knowledge. In fact I worked directly with the VP of operations.


well...
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:15 pm to
I said about everything in the other thread.

Stock being publicly hurt them. For 3 straight years well over half the stores hit or exceeded plan. The biggest marketing tool they had was advertisement a pga in each store. You have no idea how big that was. And people do buy clubs each year. Some buy 299 sets some buy brand new. The thing was that after last year being one of the best golf years for dicks ever they added 5-8% to all stores which was retarded. That would be 15-18% from 2 years ago which is unheard of. These pros were also told as long as Ed was CEO there would always be a pro in each store. These pros were lied too and I really hope something happens. I have about 20 close friends who just lost there jobs. They walked in today and was handed a severance package. One week pay every year worked for dicks. Terrible.
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:19 pm to
Honestly if they would have listened to me and a store manager who was a pro in St Louis they would still have pros. They needed a regional golf pro due to the lack of training pros were getting. Specially the guy in BR.
This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted by OutofTownAlumni
Member since Nov 2013
3036 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:38 pm to
I can see a class action suit coming very soon. Not sure what case they have but if guess they have something.
Posted by RocketTiger
Member since Mar 2014
1110 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 5:40 pm to
They own Golf Galaxy and probably feel that golf enthusiast will just go to Golf Galaxy to speak to a pro.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 6:08 pm to
Why?

Because a CEO lied to them?


I don't see it
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