re: David Ortiz now has more HRs than any other player in their final year.

Let's go through what happens to steroid users. Their bodies break down with injuries later in their career. They under go a massive change in body size. Their numbers fall off a cliff after they stop using. They are embroiled in massive controversy.

None of these apply to Ortiz. It's my impression that his 2003 test was a positive for amphetamines. Easy to get off of. No bad side effects that would derail a career. If y'all want to cry about him cheating for using a drug like that, go ahead. Other high profile players of the past have used it. Mickey Mantle and Willie Mays to name two. Someone explain to me how Ortiz can play for 11 years under the strictest drug testing policy in professional sports and not have any failed test. He has consistently put up great offensive numbers because he doesn't play the field and is a great hitter. Period. End of story. See everyone in Cooperstown.

You red Sox fans are a hoot

He was part of that group that took tests under the condition of being anonymous before it was against the rules. His name and I believe two others were the only ones linked, though 200 plus tested positive or were tested if I remember correctly.

Technically it has never been released what he tested positive for. Ortiz admits that he basically put a ton of shite into his body, so he has no idea what it was.

Link amphatemines as the PED.

I say let ortiz, arod, bonds, Mcguire, clemons, pedro, and Sosa in

At the end of the day, none of us really know if he tested positive for steroids, HGH, amphetamines (sp?), or whatever. It's really frustrating that they leaked his name, but not what he tested positive for. If it was steroids, chances are he would have fallen back to earth and not had just disgusting years in 06, 07, 11, 12, 13 and so on. But, there's always the chance he took them and just for whatever reason never saw the fall off too. I also seriously doubt MLB is going out of their way to not test an older player putting up great power numbers after what happened during Bond/Sosa, so his great numbers over the past 10 years aren't tainted in my point of view.

FTR, I don't care about PEDs in sports. They make players better. MLB shot themselves in the foot by going after users and ruining the long ball.

The amphetamines was simply a guess on my part. What drug could Ortiz have been on that wouldn't destroy his career if he got off it?

No one has ever seen that list. No one knows who leaked the names. You take an anonymous source from the NYT and parade it around as gospel. The whole thing reeks of a smear job by some salty Yankee fan.