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re: DAT: Offseason Thread (Spring Training has begun!!)
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:01 pm to TXGunslinger10
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:01 pm to TXGunslinger10
quote:
don't agree with Prom much
Agreed.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:05 pm to wahoocs
We need Beltran in lf so McCann,gattis,and gurriel can play everyday
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:07 pm to dabigfella
Gurriel needs 3 out of 4 days off. Remember last year?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:13 pm to dabigfella
Beltran is injury prone and 40 years old.
I think his offensive production over other DH candidates is not worth risking with excessive fielding duties.
Just wouldn't pencil him in the everyday starting lineup at a position if I were Hinch.
I think his offensive production over other DH candidates is not worth risking with excessive fielding duties.
Just wouldn't pencil him in the everyday starting lineup at a position if I were Hinch.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:13 pm to dabigfella
quote:so many DHs, gotta collect them all
We need Beltran in lf so McCann,gattis,and gurriel can play everyday
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:14 pm to Tiger Ryno
Really like the move. Would've loved to sign E5 but what the heck let's go get a SP now
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:14 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Ryno needs 3 out of 4 days off
Fify
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:20 pm to ahunt1905
1. Springer CF
2. Bregman 3B
3. Altuve 2B
4. Correa SS
5. Beltran DH
6. Reddick RF
7. McCann C
8. Gurriel 1B
9. Aoki LF
The question is what to do with Gattis??
2. Bregman 3B
3. Altuve 2B
4. Correa SS
5. Beltran DH
6. Reddick RF
7. McCann C
8. Gurriel 1B
9. Aoki LF
The question is what to do with Gattis??
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:22 pm to dabigfella
quote:
You say that now but look at pujols production now and think about Edwin production in years 3-5 of that deal. If you're going this year alone Beltran can provide 70% of the bat with better baserunning and infinitely more flexibility down the road. I definitely prefer Beltran on this short deal to 5 years of ee when we know the risk involved in years 3-5
You're worried about decline. Beltran hit less than 20 HRs and .330ish OBP or less in 2 out of the last 3 years. Whats more worrisome: paying the 40 year old who just had a bounce back season at that age and really depending on him for one year or a 33 year old gradually declining 3-5 years away?
We also have a young core surrounding whomever we sign now, so even if EE declines years later into a 5 year deal, our core now will mostly still be rostered (most will still be under 30). A decline for EE in 3-4 years probably means he drops from 40 HRs to 20-25 HRs. Maybe he no longer remains a mid lineup hitter and we have to move him down in the order. Not a Big deal if the young guys are still around in the 1-5 spots.
Anyways, I'm not against signing Beltran despite this rant. He is better than what we had even if he goes back to .330 OBP and sub 20 HRs that he was for multiple recent years before last season. I just woulda preferred the monster EE has been for the last 5 years even if we only get that monster for 3 years of a 5 year contract. Even if we are paying EE $25 million during the decline, contracts are about to sky rocket with some ridiculous upcoming free agent classes (starting with SPs next offseason). $25mm probably won't be a drastic overpay by that time if he is still hitting 20+ HRs
And if it comes out the EE signs somewhere for $30 mill a year, then sure, I'm glad we didn't sign him at that cost.
Just imo
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:25 pm to iamAG
quote:
Put gattis in LF.
Yeah frick that shite
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:35 pm to wahoocs
151, 133, 109, 145, 151
Doesn't look injury prone to me over the last 5 years outside of 1 year.
Doesn't look injury prone to me over the last 5 years outside of 1 year.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:54 pm to tduecen
Those are fantastic numbers if he played in the field all of those games. And if so, then this move as an everyday LFer is even better than I figured
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:04 pm to wahoocs
I like our lineup for next year
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:20 pm to wahoocs
He played the field a good bit, more with the Yankees than Texas. I mean he is a late 40's player. You are not signing him to be an everyday OF. He will probably play 2-3 games a week in the field and DH with McCann after that.
Probably games McCann starts he will DH and vice versa.
Probably games McCann starts he will DH and vice versa.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:49 pm to TTownTiger
I disagree on contracts ballooning,they may not,look how nba deals ballooned and now cable cutters are going into full force and ESPN is losing bigly every month it seems. At some point contracts will have to be redone with where cable viewership is headed. I don't know when that will be but cable cutting is in full effect and getting worse by the day
Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:12 pm to dabigfella
Interesting tidbit in the latest MLBTR update
quote:
The Astros are willing to listen to offers for catcher/designated Evan Gattis and right-hander Collin McHugh
Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:27 pm to 5 Deep
Hmmm, intradasting. I'd miss Goatis though.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:28 pm to 5 Deep
So, we're going to achieve better SP by trading one of the innings eaters?
Addition through subtraction?
Addition through subtraction?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 3:29 pm to 5 Deep
I'm confused as to what we would be trying to accomplish by trading either one of those. Would we be trying to acquire prospects in order to have more ammo to get an ace, or trying to get other big league players. If Beltran and McCann are the primary DH & C, then I guess Gattis wouldn't see as much playing time.
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