- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
0
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:48 am to msutiger
quote:
That's when you go after the big bat of Encarnacion to fill that hole in the lineup.
That's what I'm dreaming about.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:58 am to msutiger
Those two deals don't make sense though
You go from
For Quintana
To
You change out an A ball prospect that's likely in the 6-10 range for the Astros for George Springer and all you get is David Robertson?
You go from
quote:
Martes will headline the package, probably with older Tucker, Reed, and one of the big names in A-ball.
For Quintana
To
quote:
springer, Fiers, Martes, Reed, and older Tucker... You get Quintana and Robertson
You change out an A ball prospect that's likely in the 6-10 range for the Astros for George Springer and all you get is David Robertson?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:07 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
(no message)
This post was edited on 4/10/23 at 3:27 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:12 am to msutiger
Probably not, but I don't think the second one makes the team better. If you aren't able to sign another FA you have a starting OF of Aoki/Hernandez/Reddick.
You're basically boxing yourself into overpaying for Encarnacion or Fowler
Robertson isn't Chapman/Jansen or Wade Davis.
You're basically boxing yourself into overpaying for Encarnacion or Fowler
Robertson isn't Chapman/Jansen or Wade Davis.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:41 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
Quintana will cost
Martes
Tucker
Laureano
One more lower guy.
Ryno dropping knowledge. This is probably the best guess anyone has thrown out so far.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:42 am to dhav14
I'm assuming that's little Tucker 
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:45 am to msutiger
Yep. Guys like PTuck, Reed, Moran, etc lost a lot of value over the last year.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:45 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
You go from
quote:
Martes will headline the package, probably with older Tucker, Reed, and one of the big names in A-ball.
That alone won't get you Quintana -- my post wasn't very clear. Either McHugh or Fiers will go to Chicago with the list above. Quintana won't be a "we want bregman" deal... but it won't be cheap.
Also, the second scenario, I left off the mandatory young stud (young tucker or Daz, etc).
And I disagree on not needing bullpen help. The last two seasons, Harris and Gregerson have been shaky as hell towards the end of the season. Throw Robertson into the mix -- it gives you a KCRoyals type bullpen to make a run through the playoffs.
Or, we could just count on Tony Sipp and Chapman. That might work.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:47 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:46 am to dhav14
I think Reed is still fairly valuable. Not a top 30 prospect like he once was but he could still be a nice complimentary piece in a trade
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:49 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
It's a shame because he was a headliner a year ago.
There's a reason they are called prospects though.
There's a reason they are called prospects though.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:52 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I got a feeling that Reed is a guy that is going to figure it out the week after we trade him.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:52 am to Floating Change Up
quote:
Also, the second scenario, I left off the mandatory young stud (young tucker or Daz, etc).
You are probably going to have to add one of them to get Quintana by himself. Preston Tucker has very little value at this point. I still don't see how adding in Springer to get Robertson seems like a good deal
quote:
Throw Robertson into the mix -- it gives you a KCRoyals type bullpen to make a run through the playoffs.
I really don't think so. Robertson is good but is not a dominant guy like the Royals had in Davis or the Indians had in Miller or Cubs with Chapman. You have to consider the downgrade you are giving your lineup when you consider the upgrade in the bullpen too.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:54 am to msutiger
Something we haven't mentioned much yet, the Rule 5 draft is tomorrow. I guess the most likely guy we could lose would be Mike Hauschild, since he's a command first guy who could potentially eat innings for a bad team.
Maybe we should go after a high upside bullpen arm and see if they can stick. We probably won't, with Giles, Gregerson, Harris, Feliz, Devo, Sipp and Hoyt probably already penciled into the pen, but there's a couple lefty relievers that teams have left unprotected.
Maybe we should go after a high upside bullpen arm and see if they can stick. We probably won't, with Giles, Gregerson, Harris, Feliz, Devo, Sipp and Hoyt probably already penciled into the pen, but there's a couple lefty relievers that teams have left unprotected.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:56 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
I really don't think so. Robertson is good but is not a dominant guy like the Royals had in Davis or the Indians had in Miller or Cubs with Chapman. You have to consider the downgrade you are giving your lineup when you consider the upgrade in the bullpen too.
this all makes sense. I really think my idea of grabbing quinata and robertson is an emotional reaction from me not thinking my liver can withstand the vast amounts of bourbon it's going to take for me to live through another season of Tony Sipp.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:59 am to Floating Change Up
Our bullpen is far from solid. Still have no closer. I would go after EE at this point and build a softball team of hitters.
See if you can get a deal for archer or Q or Duffy for prospects. If not...hold off until July and make a deal.
EE costs nothing but money.
See if you can get a deal for archer or Q or Duffy for prospects. If not...hold off until July and make a deal.
EE costs nothing but money.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:00 am to Floating Change Up
I would love to sign Boone Logan who was discussed in here last year. He's still available. I think adding Quintana plus the lineup upgrades is a huge improvement, and they can look at other bullpen upgrades closer to the deadline to make the team better for October
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:02 am to Tiger Ryno
Agree that the bullpen needs one more arm.
At this point, if you go out and get a semi young TOR arm and add a piece to the bullpen, we won't need to be doing much large scale trading over the next 2-3 years.
That's plenty of time to reload the prospect stockpile
At this point, if you go out and get a semi young TOR arm and add a piece to the bullpen, we won't need to be doing much large scale trading over the next 2-3 years.
That's plenty of time to reload the prospect stockpile
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:11 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:
think adding Quintana plus the lineup upgrades is a huge improvement,
It is a huge improvement. But here's how I am looking at it -- in reference to that other thread, the difference between the Astros and the Red Sox for next season -- on paper:
The Red Sox players merely need to have career average seasons from them to be a dominant team.
The Astros are going to have to have some players have Career-Peak seasons for them to compete with the career-average playing Red Sox.
Unfortunately, it's just as likely that the Red Sox will have several players with career-peak seasons next year and the Astros will have some Career-low seasons.
My liver just kicked me in my ribs.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:15 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:And apprently his market has cratered. As I was wondering yesterday if his years on the deal would come in lower than first reported. Per Jeff Passan on the twitter
EE costs nothing but money.
quote:
Edwin Encarnacion is in wait-and-see mode because of how his market cratered. At this point, no team even willing to go three years, $60M.
quote:
One GM last night on Encarnacion: "Teams shouldn't overplay their hands with him, either. He's too good for the price to go much lower."
Page 50 of 75
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News