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DAT 9/7 - Are there wild Fiers in Oakland?

Posted on 9/7/15 at 8:03 am
Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 8:03 am
Fiers vs Doubront

Last long roadtrip of the season. Castro could join the team in Anaheim.

Let's win some damn games!
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 9:06 am to
Quick read from 3 days ago: Carlos Gomez's fall from grace (SIAP)

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In years past, analysts would only be able to look at his BABIP and judge his string of luck based on whether it was higher or lower than league average. However, with the advent of contact rates, we can derive conclusions as to why his BABIP may have declined. Herein lies the potential answer to why Gomez has found himself in a bit of a dry spell in the luck department at the moment.

For much of Gomez’s career, he’s hovered around league average with his batted ball data, hitting a little more soft contact than league average, per Fangraphs. Similarly to his other metrics, his batted ball data tells the story of second half regression with less and less squaring up of pitches and ergo generating hard contact. The result of that is Gomez’s line drive rate declining from 20 per cent to 15.2 per cent with his ground ball rate increasing.


Not a huge fan of LD% and quality of contact metrics since they are kind of noisy, but it definitely shows you Gomez is in a funk in the context of his career. It seems we got incredibly unlucky with him, even relative to his performance in the first half of this year. The hopeful news is that all of his stats are starting to trend upward. BABIP, OBP, plate discipline numbers, etc. Slugging is still not very good, though.
Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 9:30 am to
Really since the Yankees series when he got fired up with Girardi, he's been pretty good
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 9:34 am to
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This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 4:03 am
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 9:39 am to
Even if you make the argument that we overpaid for a rental, two things to note: a) that's not relevant for the decision to play him, and b) you really can't hold that against Ludlow since he was making the decision based on the information at his disposal.


ETA: Misspoke...he's not technically a rental since he's got another year left.
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:02 am to



Anyone with farking ability, I wouldn't be opposed to putting Fiers' face on this
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:05 am to
I don't get the over paying argument. Where exactly was Maverick going to play within the next year or two? Hell, we can hardly find a place for Tucker.


Not to mention Ted Willaims Jr., and Daz as recently acquired stud OF prospects. Losing Maverick sucks but it's not the end of the world as many DATers want to make it sound.
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:08 am to
People are just looking for a scapegoat incase we collapse


The thought of someone using Ludlow as a serious excuse for anything bad that happens is one of the most laughable things ever
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:09 am to
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I don't get the over paying argument. Where exactly was Maverick going to play within the next year or two? Hell, we can hardly find a place for Tucker. Not to mention Ted Willaims Jr., and Daz as recently acquired stud OF prospects. Losing Maverick sucks but it's not the end of the world as many DATers want to make it sound.


Agree, we've got a glutton of MILB talent. Going to be interesting how they figure out what these younger guys can contribute in the next year or so, while we compete for division Titles
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by 5 Deep
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:14 am to
Springer Daz Marisnick gonna be GOAT outfield in 2018
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:17 am to
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It seems we got incredibly unlucky with him, even relative to his performance in the first half of this year.
Clearly doesn't want to be in HOU.
Posted by Tigerfan_95
Member since Jun 2014
2932 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:19 am to
Any way Obie gets called up if Feldman is out a while? He really fricked up throwing at A-rod
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:24 am to
quote:


The thought of someone using Ludlow as a serious excuse for anything bad that happens is one of the most laughable things ever


....and it'll be the first thing most will say if th don't make the playoffs.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:32 am to
Yeah because he left a World Series contender in Milwaukee to join a team with no playoff hopes in Houston.

Idiot.
Posted by msutiger
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:33 am to
Our village idiot will be all over that.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 10:42 am to
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Yeah because he left a World Series contender in Milwaukee to join a team with no playoff hopes in Houston.
He like playing in MIL better, contender or not.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 11:25 am to


Anyway, hopefully he stops swinging out of his shoes so much. It's clear he is trying too hard to impress and help make a difference.
Posted by CQQ
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 11:34 am to
Carter going HAM today
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 11:39 am to
I know you are probably trolling, but to me it seems gomez loves the game. Im rewatching the game from last night and the guy shows so much excitement. After Lowries Bomb the guy was all smiles. I like rooting for the guy
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/7/15 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

He like playing in MIL better, contender or not.


You a relative? He looks pretty happy in Houston.
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