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DAT 6.25 Astros vs. Yankees 7:10pm

Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:29 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:29 am
Warren vs. KEUCHEL Tonight back home at MMP.

Appel promoted to AAA (encouraging trend)

Brett Phillips promoted to AA

Akeem Bostic promoted to lancaster.

1st Rd pick Alex Bregman has signed with the team.

Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:36 am to
why promote, it is not like he was dominating...
49 strike outs in 63.1 innings
4.36 ERA
23 walks in 63.1 innings
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:37 am to



Thank you. Now go get that Italian Beef Sandwich.
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:40 am to
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why promote, it is not like he was dominating...


I think it has more to do with his last 4 starts...

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But during his last four outings, things picked up considerably, as he allowed just two earned runs in 23.1 innings of work.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:43 am to
Yankees pitching inconsistent. Michael Pinata. Cc washed up . A Rod bright spot this yer at bat
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:44 am to
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But during his last four outings, things picked up considerably, as he allowed just two earned runs in 23.1 innings of work.

that can't be right....

6/21 he allowed 0 runs in 6 innings
6/15 he allowed 2 runs in 6.1 innings
6/9 he allowed 2 runs in 5 innings
6/3 he allowed 0 runs in 5 innings

So I have 4 runs in 22.1 innings of work looking at his MiLB
Posted by 225rumpshaker
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:45 am to
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I think it has more to do with his last 4 starts...
I think more than that, you simply can't take a pitchers minor league stats at face value. There was an article written by the Houston chronicle this year when LMJ was promoted to the Astros. In the article it described how last season the coaches and organization wanted him to throw his off speed pitch to develop it versus pounding his fastball. He knew it would hurt him statistically but it was part of his development plan.

My point is we don't know if Appel really isn't the pitcher he was billed to be, or if he is working on something specific. All that I know is he must have done what the front office wanted and is now moving up a level.

Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:46 am to
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All that I know is he must have done what the front office wanted and is now moving up a level.
or he has something in his contract that dictates it....
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:46 am to
And the fact that's he's 24 and they need to see what he can do at higher levels. It's time for him to shite or get off the pot and I think they want to see if he can contribute this year
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:48 am to
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I think they want to see if he can contribute this year


I do believe this is a huge part of it.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:50 am to
I am still curious who did the lazy reporting on his last 4.... much like ESPN running articles of De La Hoya wanting to comeback 5 days after he refuted the initial report.
Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 9:54 am to
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The Astros have been trying to get Appel to be more aggressive early in counts and get ahead of hitters more and establish his fastball, which he's been able to do recently.

“I think just everything has kind of been going off my fastball, so getting my fastball right and getting it down in the zone and throwing it early in the count, that really opens up a lot of doors for my off-speed stuff or maybe elevating my fastball by design and so on and so forth,” he said. “Being able to get ahead of hitters, it puts you in a pitcher's count and also you end up not really walking too many guys.”


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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:05 am to
I'm leaving tomorrow for a 10 day vacation with zero TV's, no phone, and very limited internet connection. (no, not a cruise). So I won't get to keep up with the Astros very much until after the July 4 weekend.

Going to get this quick end-of-month review of my pre-season predictions ( link here):
FCU prediction for April record 2015: 11 - 11, Actual was 15-7
Prediction for May 2015 record will be 14-15, Actual was 16-13
Prediction for June, 2015 record will be 15-14, Actual is 11-12 thru 6/24

Astros are 0-4 in 1 run games this month.

Predictions were 40-40 for the end of June. They are currently 42-32.

It's going to be hard to go 4-2 against the band-wagon Yankee crowds and the talented Royals lineup.

Let's hope the bats start working again with some home cooking.

ETA: and I'm currently still on the hook for having to buy Ryno a ticket to the first Astros playoff game this year.
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Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:07 am to
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I am still curious who did the lazy reporting on his last 4


Yeah... that has me scratching my head too. I guess Jounalism majors don't have to take basic math classes?
Posted by texastiger38
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:09 am to
Its still a 1.56 ERA over the last 4.

They did this with him in Lancaster last year, started out terrible, then pitched well in 2 or 3 games and then promoted him.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 10:10 am
Posted by angryslugs
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:13 am to
Is Qualls DFA'd yet? I'm gonna have have to change the channel when he comes in now to keep my sanity.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:23 am to
IN
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:25 am to
Yanks carrying 6 relievers for this series.

ETA: Interesting given their bullpen struggles recently.
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 10:28 am
Posted by Floating Change Up
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:27 am to
Saw this tidbit on MLBTradeRumors:
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The Astros remain interested in Jeff Samardzija, and as Rosenthal notes, a move away from what has been a brutal White Sox defense would likely help Samardzija quite a bit. Samardzija’s .338 BABIP has helped contribute to a significant discrepancy between his 4.53 ERA and 3.67 FIP. Of course, Chicago’s porous defense doesn’t necessarily explain Samardzija’s diminished strikeout rate and struggles to strand runners in 2015. The Astros, Rosenthal says, are eyeing Samardzija and other pitchers, but the White Sox are not yet ready to sell.


Which reminded me of an interview I heard with a reporter that covers the White Sox. Basically, he said that if the White Sox couldn't turn things around dramatically, the front office will make drastic moves -- including offering up Chris Sale and David Robertson, if the return was a big enough haul.

That said, what would y'all be willing to give up for both Sale and Robertson. Sale immediately puts the Astros as a post-season favorite. Robertson allows the Astros to D-the-Fing-A Qualls. A Neshak-Robertson-Gregorson 7-8-9 would be incredible. Throw in Fields and Harris and holy-crap that's an incredible bullpen.

To get Sale and Robertson -- ANYONE is available from the farm. But I'm thinking they'd want someone from the 25 man... would you let Springer go in the trade package as long as you keep Kemp? Or would you only let Santana or Tucker go?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 6/25/15 at 10:33 am to
The price for Sale would be so ridiculous. They would probably start off asking for Correa and I think realistically you would have to give up Springer plus other prospects. Not worth it IMO, Springer has taken a big step forward these last few weeks, has huge potential and seems to be a crucial part of the clubhouse already. Going forward with DK plus LMJ plus a FA addition the rotation should be more than fine. Sale is a beast though

I don't think trading for someone like Robertson is worth it, but I also am not huge on giving up important assets for relievers. Replace Qualls with a call up or a cheap trade option and be done with it, the core of the bullpen (Gregerson, Fields, Sipp, Harris) is fine.

Samardzjia interests me as an option though depending on what they want in return
This post was edited on 6/25/15 at 10:35 am
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