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re: Covington Reciever transfers to SPS
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:01 am to chalmetteowl
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:01 am to chalmetteowl
Lot of misinformation in this thread.
What I heard is directly from the former head coach at Covington. The kid's LHSAA paperwork was actually screwed up from the get go. Since he lives in two LHSAA classified school districts he has to declare a school of first choice. His school of first choice was supposed to Covington high but on his paperwork it is listed as St Pauls. Therefore he should not have been eligible his sophomore year at Covington. This went undiscovered until Scobel was fired and the kid wanted to transfer back to St Pauls. The screw up in the paperwork allowed him to transfer his senior year without penalty. So St Pauls lucked out on the paperwork screw up and the Covington principal did sign off on it because there is nothing they can contest because the kid should not have been eligible as a senior.
What I heard is directly from the former head coach at Covington. The kid's LHSAA paperwork was actually screwed up from the get go. Since he lives in two LHSAA classified school districts he has to declare a school of first choice. His school of first choice was supposed to Covington high but on his paperwork it is listed as St Pauls. Therefore he should not have been eligible his sophomore year at Covington. This went undiscovered until Scobel was fired and the kid wanted to transfer back to St Pauls. The screw up in the paperwork allowed him to transfer his senior year without penalty. So St Pauls lucked out on the paperwork screw up and the Covington principal did sign off on it because there is nothing they can contest because the kid should not have been eligible as a senior.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 9:02 am
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:08 am to Mr Eko
quote:how is that so if he was at SPS in 9th grade according to this thread?
His school of first choice was supposed to Covington high
quote:his paperwork is right
but on his paperwork it is listed as St Pauls.
quote:wasn't he in the Covington attendance zone?
Therefore he should not have been eligible his sophomore year at Covington.
quote:no, it was that St. Paul is in the attendance zone too
The screw up in the paperwork allowed him to transfer his senior year without penalty.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:15 am to chalmetteowl
I said that this was told to me directly by Scobel. Obviously he told me the story from a perspective of that Brumfield was supposed to eligible as a sophomore. Now think about it that way and it answers all of your questions. It is OK to think outside of the box.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:16 am to chalmetteowl
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wasn't he in the Covington attendance zone?
Covington and St. Paul's have the same attendance zone (although, St. Paul's isn't confined to that zone, since it is private).
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:21 am to brewhan davey
By the way, this a great pickup for St Pauls. If Gaines and Brumfield stay healthy I really believe with the new playoff bracket St Pauls has a legit chance to win it. Things worked out for Kenny with the playoff system. Now he is still dumb for switching away from XCEL.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:32 am to Mr Eko
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By the way, this a great pickup for St Pauls.
Most definitely. Especially since they are switching to the spread. They really lacked the personnel for the spread without Brumfield. That McClesky kid was really the only capable WR they have returning. Hopefully the QB from last year has been working on his arm strength, because anything over 20 yards had a serious arch on it last year.
On defense, the front 7 should be tough, but the DBs will be very young, and a team like Karr in week 1 will present serious challenges.
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If Gaines and Brumfield stay healthy I really believe with the new playoff bracket St Pauls has a legit chance to win it.
I hope they can at least get out of the first round
I haven't heard about EXCL though? What's the story with that?
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:47 am to brewhan davey
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On defense, the front 7 should be tough
They did lose the older Chatman. He got kicked out of the school. I know he has a younger brother that will probably start for them. But anytime you lose a 6'3'' 280 pound it hurts.
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They really lacked the personnel for the spread without Brumfield
Gaines and Brumfield give them two guys that can break any play for a TD. Their spread will be good just because of the personnel. If they run their schemes well they will be really dangerous.
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McClesky
I don't normally disagree with you but I have to disagree with you on this kid. I think daddy is the only reason Sears keeps him on the field. Unless the kid blew up over the summer he is only an average high school player IMO.
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Hopefully the QB from last year has been working on his arm strength
I think its only a matter of time before Sears' son is the starter. Younger Sears is the best QB they have but he is just a sophomore.
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I haven't heard about EXCL though? What's the story with that?
Sears switched off-season workout programs. (Word I got was that he blamed the lack of postseason success on that) That was a big advantage SPS had. Mandeville has only been going to XCEL for the last two years and look at their postseason results.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 9:56 am to Mr Eko
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They did lose the older Chatman. He got kicked out of the school.
So he should be able to transfer to CHS or Hannan and be eligible right away, correct? Same as the Brumfield situation
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:07 am to El Duderino
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So he should be able to transfer to CHS or Hannan and be eligible right away, correct? Same as the Brumfield situation
It is my understanding that Chatman is ineligible. Since he also lives in two LHSAA attendance zones (Covington and St Pauls) his school of first choice was St Pauls. Since it is listed as SPS he cannot transfer AWAY from his school of first choice and be eligible. Brumfield is transfering TO his school of first choice and is therefore eligible. It is my understanding that the Chatman family will have to move attendance zones for him to play football this year.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:13 am to Mr Eko
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They did lose the older Chatman. He got kicked out of the school. I know he has a younger brother that will probably start for them. But anytime you lose a 6'3'' 280 pound it hurts.
Did not know this.. that really hurts them up front. Where will he be playing this fall now?
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Gaines and Brumfield give them two guys that can break any play for a TD. Their spread will be good just because of the personnel. If they run their schemes well they will be really dangerous.
Most definitely. Unfortunately, they'll have to get the system down quickly, as they open up with Edna Karr in week 1. That game could get ugly (although, in the past, they've played Karr very well).
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I don't normally disagree with you but I have to disagree with you on this kid. I think daddy is the only reason Sears keeps him on the field. Unless the kid blew up over the summer he is only an average high school player IMO.
I didn't realize it was one of those situations. I just remember he was the only underclassman receiver that got significant playing time last year. Granted, the offensive line was the main problem last year.. it seemed like opposing defensive lines were in the QB's face almost immediately. There are some things not even Joe Dickens can fix on the offensive line (who, IMO, is as good an OL coach you can get in the HS level).
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I think its only a matter of time before Sears' son is the starter. Younger Sears is the best QB they have but he is just a sophomore.
This will likely give away my identity, but my mother actually teaches at SPS and she said that Kenny is huge for his age. Before long, he'll be prototypical QB size. I agree with you that he will eventually be the starter.
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Sears switched off-season workout programs. (Word I got was that he blamed the lack of postseason success on that) That was a big advantage SPS had. Mandeville has only been going to XCEL for the last two years and look at their postseason results.
Do you know which program they are using now?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:20 am to Mr Eko
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It is my understanding that Chatman is ineligible. Since he also lives in two LHSAA attendance zones (Covington and St Pauls) his school of first choice was St Pauls. Since it is listed as SPS he cannot transfer AWAY from his school of first choice and be eligible. Brumfield is transfering TO his school of first choice and is therefore eligible. It is my understanding that the Chatman family will have to move attendance zones for him to play football this year.
So if this is the case, how was Brumfield eligible to play his 10th grade year after he was kicked out of SPS?
And speaking of which, how is SPS gonna let him attend SPS again after he was kicked out 2 years ago?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:22 am to El Duderino
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CHS principal had to sign off on his eligibility, which she did. So CHS must not be too worried about losing him.
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the Covington principal did sign off on it because there is nothing they can contest because the kid should not have been eligible as a senior.
I would hope LA school administrators wouldn't give a shite about where a kid plays football in HIGH school. If they do, then I can see there are some fricked up priorities.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:29 am to Teddy Ruxpin
interestingly Covington voted for the split...
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:30 am to chalmetteowl
Of course they did. All the Northshore public schools did; although they all still play St. Paul's every year during the regular season, just not in the playoffs (which isn't St. Paul's strong suit anyway).
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:33 am to brewhan davey
nah... sometimes you get bad luck and bad matchups in a one game sample
St. Paul's puts together enough good teams, they will see the Dome and win championships, that's the way it is.
St. Paul's puts together enough good teams, they will see the Dome and win championships, that's the way it is.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:36 am to brewhan davey
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Where will he be playing this fall now?
From what I understand he is not eligible unless he moves. I don't know enough about the family and this situation, but I know his younger brother is still at St Pauls.
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Edna Karr in week 1.
Edna Karr and teams like them simply don't have the resources for a legitimate off-season program. St Pauls has won that game every year because they are in better shape at that time of year. I still see them having the advantage over Karr week 1.
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I didn't realize it was one of those situations.
The father McClesky works the Mandeville area for kids. Obviously he is not as good at it as Magic. So younger McClesky "needs" to be on the field.
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Joe Dickens can fix on the offensive line (who, IMO, is as good an OL coach you can get in the HS level).
Totally agree.
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I agree with you that he will eventually be the starter.
It really is a tough spot for Coach Sears. His kid is better but if he starts him as a sophomore there will be parents saying he is playing favorites. So he is probably going to give the other kid the chance first. The other kid's arm is just not good. But if they start 0-2 (Karr and Jesuit) then he will probably go with his son.
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Do you know which program they are using now?
I heard they are going with Jesse Kellum.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:40 am to El Duderino
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Also not sure if he has family problems. A white lady has taken him in to live with her family... whose son just happens to attend SPS as well.
yeah, it's a weird situation. hopefully it doesn't mess anything up.
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:41 am to El Duderino
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So if this is the case, how was Brumfield eligible to play his 10th grade year after he was kicked out of SPS?
He wasn't. But who is going to contest it two years later? Fontainebleau?
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:46 am to Mr Eko
the thing i hate most about the regular season and the split... St. Paul's can go 0-2 in those first two games and even 0-10 and still be guaranteed a state playoff game by just putting 11 kids out there
now yeah HS kids aren't really wired like that, they'll play hard bc it's HS football, but they know what's going on. (and the larger nonselect classes don't get that luxury)
now yeah HS kids aren't really wired like that, they'll play hard bc it's HS football, but they know what's going on. (and the larger nonselect classes don't get that luxury)
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 10:48 am
Posted on 7/18/13 at 10:46 am to Mr Eko
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I still see them having the advantage over Karr week 1.
It will take a gargantuan effort for St. Paul's to beat Karr this year. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Karr's roster for 2013, but it could quite possibly be the most talented team in the country. That is not an exaggeration, either.
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The father McClesky works the Mandeville area for kids. Obviously he is not as good at it as Magic.
Wasn't aware of this.. St. Paul's is a harder sell to the Mandeville kids (that weren't planning on going to SPS to begin with). Not only is Mandeville a great football program with a great coaching staff, but it is also one of the best public schools in the state.
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It really is a tough spot for Coach Sears. His kid is better but if he starts him as a sophomore there will be parents saying he is playing favorites. So he is probably going to give the other kid the chance first. The other kid's arm is just not good. But if they start 0-2 (Karr and Jesuit) then he will probably go with his son.
I think you're spot on with this.
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I heard they are going with Jesse Kellum.
I hope Kellum has taken a more olympic, explosive-style approach to his training regimen, at least for training the football team. Powerlifting isn't the best lifting style for football training.
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