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re: Could an MLB team go undefeated playing a college schedule?

Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by MottLaneKid
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:26 pm to
Astros would not be playing every day: 56 games over 14 weeks: more rested.

3 man rotation of pitching. Bull pen better developed.

Mlb pitchers more skilled with three or four different pitches.

Power and speed in the lineup over college teams.

Experience period.

Posted by chew4219
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:26 pm to
All things being equal, the worst MLB team wouldn't lose more than 2 games. Given that the NCAA team uses wooden bats or the MLB team uses aluminum bats.

If it's 100% on the same playing field there is no chance. Guys like Altuve, Trout or Harper would hit close to .550 with a metal bat against NCAA pitching.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:30 pm to
It's definitely possible.

But Even the worst baseball teams have good days, and vice versa.

NFL or NBA versus college? No brainer. Pros go unbeaten.

But baseball is that one sport that I firmly believe college teams could beat pro teams.

The best teams would have a better chance to go unbeaten. But I think Kentucky or Florida could give the Astros a run for their money. Hell, on LSU's better days, they probably could as well.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 10:33 pm
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:33 pm to
Idk but damn Louisville looks like a double a team this year. Brendon McKay on the mound maybe
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:34 pm to
Hahahahaha college baseball sucks of course they would
Posted by D011ahbi11
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:36 pm to
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College teams scrimmage vs. MLB teams yearly. Now, college teams winning doesn't happen super often, but even a D2 squad has beaten a MLB team. Here's a clip from that in 2015.


Apparently you didn't read the link you just posted. That wasn't an MLB team. Look at the box score, probably more than half the guys that played for the Phillies aren't big leaguers.
Posted by tigerfan88
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:49 pm to
Think a team like lsu, with really good fielding, would almost definitely win one in 50. All it takes is one game where the MLB team gee unlucky on balls in play and the MLB pitcher has control issues
Posted by PapaPogey
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:50 pm to
I think college hitters could hit MLB pitchers, but college pitchers would get killed by MLB batters. That being said, I think the MLB team would have at least a couple of off nights. So no, I don't think they could win 50+ straight.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:54 pm to
Talent gap isnt much different overall from each college to pro sport but baseball is certainly the easiest sport for a college team to beat a pro team. Football and basketball are too team oriented for a college team to beat a pro team. A great pitcher can shut another team down though, it just happens.

College teams regularly compete well with pro teams in exhibition games, so while its possible for a pro team to go undefeated on a tough college schedule, its still more unlikely than likely IMO. Just too great a chance to run into a pitcher who will shut you down.
Posted by TROLA
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:15 pm to
If I was betting, I'd say no but that's simply playing the odds of one night off by enough players over 50 games..
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:16 pm to
I would bet no, if we are talking against an SEC team's schedule.

The average MLB team would be the favorite to win the CWS, but to go unblemished, I don't see it happening.
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:18 pm to
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The average MLB team would be the favorite to win the CWS


Don't go too far out there on that limb
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:34 pm to
I was talking the favorite vs the field.
Posted by The Seaward
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:37 pm to
I gotcha. Yeah, I agree they would be a healthy favorite even against the field.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:33 am to
College players play in off-season leagues with minor league teams all the time and they often beat them. And not just D1 college players... I'm talking D2 and D3 also.

So yes, on a great night for LSU and a bad night for the Astros, LSU could win a game.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:36 am to
quote:

I think college hitters could hit MLB pitchers, but college pitchers would get killed by MLB batters. That being said, I think the MLB team would have at least a couple of off nights. So no, I don't think they could win 50+ straight.
I was thinking just the opposite. It takes a while for hitters to adjust to MLB pitching.

But a great college pitcher if he has his best stuff can look as good as anyone on a given night.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:47 am to
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My brother said no


Never take advice from your brother.
Posted by BoardReader
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:48 am to
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Apparently you didn't read the link you just posted. That wasn't an MLB team. Look at the box score, probably more than half the guys that played for the Phillies aren't big leaguers.



No, I read it.


I think you have some belief that bad major league baseball teams just roll out rosters that will guarantee smash a college team.

This is a major league team, with major leaguers and roster invitees to spring training with plausible chances to play in the majors, being beat by less than the gold standard of college baseball.

Those guys may not have been super regulars, but pretty much all of them had 100+ major league at bats, with a few with over a 1000 at bats.

Yes, MLB players will overwhelmingly win against college teams. They do that. They won't, over the course of a 162 game season, be perfect.

A 60 game undefeated season on a college schedule? A less than 50-50 shot.

155-7? Sure. That might happen sometimes, for the very best teams.

162-0? No

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:52 am to
This is turning into a Bama fan thread about beating the Dolphins.

Get some perspective. Your favorite player is going to toil in the minors half the the time.
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6930 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 12:59 am to
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This is turning into a Bama fan thread about beating the Dolphins. Get some perspective. Your favorite player is going to toil in the minors half the the time.



Its not a similar comp, though I do understand the impulse.

The distances between professionals and amateurs are smaller, because of the relative talent pools, and the capacity of a single performer to control a game to a much better extent than a football game. If you get the absolute best game pitched, you can suck comparatively defensively, on the bases, and at the plate, and still need only one screw up to win.

And the best part of this is that we see the actual matchups all the time-- most teams do it once a year, or so.

And sometimes, the college teams win, usually on the back of a pitching performance and not screwing up everything else badly.
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