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re: Could an MLB team go undefeated playing a college schedule?

Posted on 5/19/17 at 2:12 am to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 2:12 am to
We are assuming the best prospects all play in College like football or basketball.

That is not remotely the case in the history of baseball.

Baseball has a farm system for the top prospects unlike the NFL which needs CFB.

College has a ton of players who are there to play College baseball. And their dream ends. If all prospects had to play College ball from the Dominican to Cuba to the Americas then we could talk possibilities.

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 2:21 am to
About 10.5 percent, of NCAA male baseball players will get drafted by a Major League Baseball (MLB) team.

And then years in the minors.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 2:22 am to
It's certainly possible but anyone with a brain would never bet on it and expect any return. Regular people don't realize how big the talent gap is between a college player versus an MLB player. There's a reason the farm teams are so numerous, it takes an above average person to become a pro
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 2:28 am to
Baseball is far more a global sport than football.

An MLB team given aluminum bats would go apeshite over any College team given the experience, global pool, expertise and years it took them to get to the majors.

NCAA All-Star College Football team would have a better shot beating the Pats than a college baseball team beating an MLB club.
Posted by LfcSU3520
Arizona
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:22 am to
if you did ten seasons of this I think a college team would win A game in 6 of the years.

Never more than 2 but I don't think that would ever happen.

Like everyone has said, it would take one pitcher throwing out of his mind. The problem for the MLB guys would be infamiliarity with who they were facing. Wouldn't matter much for the pitchers, but the hitters would have a couple issues.

The big league team would score over 30 runs at least 10 times and would shut out the other team 40+ times.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 4:26 am to
Major league players would absolutely crush college pitching

Mike Fiers would probably find a way to give up a homerun or two.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 5:20 am to
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Mike Fiers would probably find a way to give up a homerun or two.




Fiers wouldnt even be in the rotation. Youd have Keuchel, McCullers, Morton on the weekend and Musgrove starting midweek games and the entire bullpen ready to go almost every single game.

Im honestly shocked at the responses in here. People think an NBA/NFL team would easily do it (agreed) but cant imagine an MLB doing it? MLB has in fact the LARGEST talent difference. LSU and Bama both had like 10/11 started on defense from the 2011 teams play in the NFL. The vast majority of even the best college baseball team doesnt sniff an active major league roster. MLB is still the only sport that the very best talent doesnt even go to college.

The main argument is a hot pitcher but the astros have played 40 games against MLB pitching and have only been shut out once with no complete game thrown against them. They also feast on MLB bullpens. So essentially we are talking about the best college starting pitcher going a complete game shut out against a major league lineup without major league defense behind them, without a major league catcher calling pitches, and without major league pitching coach.

Lets take the arguably best college pitcher of the last decade-Stephen Strasburg. He didnt go straight to the majors. He had a 4.26 ERA in fall league after getting drafted. He didnt throw his first complete game (his only CG btw) until his 4th season in the majors.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27766 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 6:54 am to
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College players play in off-season leagues with minor league teams all the time

Yeah I'm going to need a link to these leagues.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:13 am to
How is this even a question?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:48 am to
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Fiers wouldnt even be in the rotation. Youd have Keuchel, McCullers, Morton on the weekend and Musgrove starting midweek games and the entire bullpen ready to go almost every single game.



the 2011/12/13 Astros are better for this conversation

Altuve might hit .600.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47469 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:55 am to
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It's certainly possible but anyone with a brain would never bet on it and expect any return. Regular people don't realize how big the talent gap is between a college player versus an MLB player. There's a reason the farm teams are so numerous, it takes an above average person to become a pro
what people haven't said, is that the top of the rosters in college can absolutely compete... at the height of Nola's or Lange's powers, they can keep you in the game (not shut you down) for 6 innings with an elite for college LSU defense behind them. Lately, the top SEC draftees have been starting out in AA and rocketing straight up.

but in more than a one game scenario, MLB would nuke college bullpens... and after maybe some beginner's luck, MLB would know what they're facing and college pitchers can't adjust as well. A college offense's best hope in the BBCOR era would be to just swing for the fences and try to hit three home runs, bc they will never score by playing small ball. Too much needs to happen.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 7:58 am
Posted by cheesesteak501
The South
Member since Mar 2014
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 7:57 am to
I'd love to see Stanton face college pitchers for a season.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge LA
Member since Sep 2006
36113 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:10 am to
Not a chance. Simply because it's baseball.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:17 am to
I would give the MLB team greater than 50% chance of going undefeated playing a college schedule. Including postseason.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:26 am to
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I would give the MLB team greater than 50% chance of going undefeated playing a college schedule. Including postseason.


Could and would are two vastly different concepts in this hypothetical. It's not going to far out on a limb to say a MLB team COULD go undefeated in a college schedule. I would think odds would be against it, but not by much.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:27 am to
I would say the opposite. A college team COULD manage to win a game, but odds would be against it.
Posted by Brian Wilson
Member since Mar 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:31 am to
Is the MLB team using aluminum or wood bats?
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31796 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:31 am to
Frankly it's less likely an NBA team would go undefeated (though I believe they would) against a college schedule. Kentucky has more NBA starting talent any given year in a sport that requires less players than any college baseball team ever and shooters can go hot and cold just like pitchers
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 8:32 am
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27766 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:39 am to
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Not a chance. Simply because it's baseball.

How about a college team playing a high school JV or freshman schedule?
Posted by jdawg
Cecilia, LA
Member since Mar 2006
552 posts
Posted on 5/19/17 at 8:42 am to
If we're talking mid-late 90's LSU teams with the hot bats and juiced players versus the terrible Astros teams from 5-6 years ago...maybe LSU gets a few games out of 50. With the current teams, it's not even a debate.
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