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Clayton Kershaw 4-6 with a 4.39 ERA In The Playoffs For His Career

Posted on 10/22/16 at 9:55 pm
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 9:55 pm
84 innings, not a small sample size. Guess he has no chest, his $32M salary this year was just beaten by a guy making $500k.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79159 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 9:56 pm to
eh

Happy for Cubs

but not sure how anyone dislikes Kershaw
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38670 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 9:56 pm to
Some guys are winners, some guys aren't.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 9:58 pm to
I like Kershaw dont get me wrong, just saying he just doesnt seem to be the same pitcher when it counts. Obviously its vs better competition but for $1m/start he better bring it all day everyday. Im not a fan of paying pitchers so much at least not starters, relievers are worth more to me bc of how andrew miller or mariano rivera dominate in the postseason in every game where their team leads.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42503 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 10:04 pm to
Kershaw was pretty dang solid this postseason. He just wasn't going to get in the way of the Cubs destiny.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/22/16 at 10:34 pm to
84 innings is a small sample size. His postseason peripherals are pretty damn strong. This narrative is stupid.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Member since Apr 2009
38670 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 10:44 pm to
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84 innings is a small sample size. His postseason peripherals are pretty damn strong. This narrative is stupid.


If he won more the sample size would be bigger.....but playoff sample size is always gonna be small.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/22/16 at 10:45 pm to
thats just the way baseball go
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 10/22/16 at 11:30 pm to
The numbers will get slightly worse after tonight, but coming into Game 6, here are some of more impressive playoff numbers for Kershaw.

2.92 FIP
3.09 xFIP
2.68 SIERA
10.93 K/9
29.5% K%
21.7 K-BB%


Italicized stats are better than Kershaw's regular season numbers.

A partial look at why Kershaw "struggles" in the playoffs:

61.8% LOB% (league average is over 70%)
.293 BABIP (regular season is .271)
.86 HR/9 (regular season is .54 HR/9)

Essentially, he is a very similar pitcher with marginally worse inputs and terrible unlucky results. His walk and home run rates are a little worse, but his underlying numbers show why Kershaw is a killer any time of the year.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:14 am to
bullshite stats. He gets out pitched in the playoffs most of the time. It's head to head, not against some nebulous median.
Posted by ptra
Member since Nov 2006
1428 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:22 am to
Greg Maddux was 11-14 with a 3.27
Posted by The Seaward
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
11346 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:25 am to
quote:

84 innings is a small sample size. His postseason peripherals are pretty damn strong. This narrative is stupid.


All true.

You will convince no one that pumps the narrative though.

Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 12:34 am to
Still way more fun to pump this narrative. Call him the unluckiest pitcher in playoff history if you want, it's still interesting.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 7:07 am to
He is at 89 innings and 18 games, that's half a season. No longer a small sample size for me.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
50340 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:37 am to
quote:

Im not a fan of paying pitchers so much at least not starters, relievers are worth more to me bc of how andrew miller or mariano rivera dominate in the postseason in every game where their team leads.


Well you're wrong.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72000 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:44 am to
quote:

84 innings is a small sample size. His postseason peripherals are pretty damn strong. This narrative is stupid.


And what would be the narrative if he was Bumgarner-esque in the playoffs?

It would be blown up, he would be crowned more so than he already is

84 innings is not a small sample size relative to postseason IP
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:54 am to
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Kershaw was pretty dang solid this postseason.

3 bad starts
1 good start
1 good relief appearence

is dang solid?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145129 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:58 am to
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No longer a small sample size for me.

and even then all his peripherals check out. If you actually think Kershaw for some reason can't pitch in the postseason, even though he has made multiple dominate starts and literally got through danuel Murphy to close out game 5 with runners in scoring position, then I don't know what to tell you
This post was edited on 10/23/16 at 11:00 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145129 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:58 am to
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3 bad starts
or one start that he wasn't dominate but won and another start that looks worse because his bullpen couldn't get one out
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
202780 posts
Posted on 10/23/16 at 11:01 am to
You need to just stop.... He is NOT that good in the playoffs. Fact......
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