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re: Cards send Miller to braves...get Heyward
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:56 am to bbap
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:56 am to bbap
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The cardinals should trade Holliday. I love him but he's probably entering his twilight years. They could still get value for him from someone dumb like the yankees.
That's probably a trade that happens closer to the trade deadline if ever but that would require the Cards being out of contention and a team being willing to overpay for the hopes of some pop in the lineup.
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:56 am to papz
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after another underachieving year.
Yeah, frick those 5 WAR seasons. When was he going to get it together?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:56 am to volfan30
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Starting to blossom?
6.25 K/9
3.59 BB/9
4.54 FIP
I have watched him pitch quite a bit, too. His four seamer was so bad this year he had to add a sinker.
THIS
Seriously, why not start the year with Heyward? You could always move him mid-summer or get a first back.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:57 am to SwampDonks
quote:should be quite formidable
Excited about Teheran, Wood, and Miller.
we need bats that make contact now
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:57 am to volfan30
Shelby is garbage. I don't give a frick how he pitched for 1 month down the stretch, you could say the same about half the pitchers in MLB. Statistically he is fricking worthless. I mean dude had to add a sinker cause his stuff sucked so big of nuts.
Atleast I'm saving $100 on MLB.tv this year.
Atleast I'm saving $100 on MLB.tv this year.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:58 am to Pilot Tiger
And why the frick is Kimbrel untouchable? Having the best closer in the game is god damn useless if you're not trying to compete.
Why the frick would we not maximize value there?
Why the frick would we not maximize value there?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:59 am to volfan30
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Yeah, frick those 5 WAR seasons. When was he going to get it together?
Great, the useless WAR. We should have just handed Heyward 300 million then.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:59 am to volfan30
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volfan30
Not trying to convince you he's a #1. He's obviously not. But I think he is also better than you are giving him credit for. After adding the sinker, I think he had one bad outing against the Cubs where he gave up 3 but before that he had a couple of scoreless games through 7 and a few others where he only gave up 1. If he continues on that route by adding the sinker, I think your opinions might change by this time next year.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:59 am to TheGasMan
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Shelby is garbage. I don't give a frick how he pitched for 1 month down the stretch, you could say the same about half the pitchers in MLB. Statistically he is fricking worthless. I mean dude had to add a sinker cause his stuff sucked so big of nuts.
no convincing you i guess. so a dude adds a pitch to his repertoire, it works, and you are making fun of him for it? okkk
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:01 pm to bbap
he's so bad at pitching, he added another pitch to make up for his other pitches not being as good!
so it doesn't count!
so it doesn't count!
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:02 pm to papz
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Great, the useless WAR. We should have just handed Heyward 300 million then.
That is hyperbole, but I would much rather have signed Heyward to a market value deal (8 years, $150 mil maybe?) than trade him for slop.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:02 pm to volfan30
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That is hyperbole, but I would much rather have signed Heyward to a market value deal (8 years, $150 mil maybe?) than trade him for slop.
haha frick that
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:03 pm to piggidyphish
I don't understand why Braves fans are melting so hard. Getting a young mid rotation piece with potential and another young minor league arm with potential is a lot better than a comp pick.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:04 pm to volfan30
As I see it, the Cards gave up a pitcher who would have been in their starting rotation and now will be in Atlanta's starting rotation for the foreseeable future for a player who won't even be in the starting lineup by the end of the year and will be gone for certain after next year.
Regardless of what you think about Miller, you're also overvaluing Heyward.
Regardless of what you think about Miller, you're also overvaluing Heyward.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:05 pm to papz
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That is not a 18.75 million dollar a year player.
What do you want to bet?
If you think he gets under that AAV as a 25 year old next winter I will do a sig, avi, etc. for however long you want.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:07 pm to reedus23
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you're also overvaluing Heyward.
He has put up almost 25 WAR through his age 24 season.
Is the best defender in baseball, an elite baserunner and an above average hitter with very good past production as a hitter.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:07 pm to volfan30
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If you think he gets under that AAV as a 25 year old next winter I will do a sig, avi, etc. for however long you want.
let me just be the first to say that you people who bet signatures/avatars are ridiculous. oh no NOT MY AVATAR!
sorry for the rant. btw volfan thanks for VCU -1.5. I'd like to know where you gamble because there was no line at any book i saw even close to 1.5.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:07 pm to volfan30
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If you think he gets under that AAV as a 25 year old next winter I will do a sig, avi, etc. for however long you want.
I'm sure he will get it. Not too sure he is worth it.
Well let's hope this move works out better for us than the last couple big moves the Braves made, which most were ecstatic about.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 12:07 pm to SwampDonks
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Miller and Mcdowell will be a great match.
Does Miller also hate the gays?
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