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Can someone explain to me the significance of hand checking in the NBA?
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:31 pm
I’m watching a really neat sit down with Hubie Brown and he’s talking about hand checking and they’re showing clips.
I can’t stop thinking that a Lebron type guy would absolutely obliterate this style of defense.
These guys are in the ball handler’s pocket with a hand on their hip. Wtf happens when Lebron does a super human rip through on that as he faces the defender and then blows past them bc they’re 3 inches from him and now taking his shoulder to their throat as he drives?
Or if a big guy(like Lebron) turns his back and backs you down, what the shite is a hand check going to do?
Was it legal to swipe that dumb shite away? Was that an offensive foul? Do you really want to guard some of these super athletes we see today that close? Can you play help defense if you’re touching every person you guard?
I don’t understand why hand checking makes players back in the day more hardened than guys now. How is it a knock on this era that they don’t hand check?
I can’t stop thinking that a Lebron type guy would absolutely obliterate this style of defense.
These guys are in the ball handler’s pocket with a hand on their hip. Wtf happens when Lebron does a super human rip through on that as he faces the defender and then blows past them bc they’re 3 inches from him and now taking his shoulder to their throat as he drives?
Or if a big guy(like Lebron) turns his back and backs you down, what the shite is a hand check going to do?
Was it legal to swipe that dumb shite away? Was that an offensive foul? Do you really want to guard some of these super athletes we see today that close? Can you play help defense if you’re touching every person you guard?
I don’t understand why hand checking makes players back in the day more hardened than guys now. How is it a knock on this era that they don’t hand check?
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Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:36 pm to ReauxlTide222
Imagine getting fouled on every dribble with no ref blowing the whistle.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:37 pm to ReauxlTide222
LeBron from a physical standpoint could have played in that area and produced. However, his mental weakness would have wrecked him.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:39 pm to ReauxlTide222
Old people tend to think that the most physically gifted nba player ever would some how not be able to survive in the nba of the 80-90s era.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:39 pm to HangmanPage1
His “mental weakness” hasn’t been a thing since 2011 baww
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:46 pm to TigerMan327
He is way too soft to have played in the 80's/90's
This post was edited on 5/13/23 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:46 pm to ReauxlTide222
It doesn't help LeBron as much as the smaller point guards with tremendous skill but less strength and athleticism. See Steve Nash whose performance, efficiency, and impact skyrocketed after the handcheck rules were implemented.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:47 pm to TigerMan327
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Old people tend to think that the most physically gifted nba player ever would some how not be able to survive in the nba of the 80-90s era.
Bird could play in this era and make LeBron look like shite.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:49 pm to saintsfan1977
Bird could score on Lebron. Idk bout make him look like shite. Lebron would easily score on Byrd as well.
You can switch that scenario to every other top 10 player ever and you’d get the same result
You can switch that scenario to every other top 10 player ever and you’d get the same result
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:53 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Wtf happens when Lebron does a super human rip through on that as he faces the defender and then blows past them bc they’re 3 inches from him and now taking his shoulder to their throat as he drives?
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:56 pm to HangmanPage1
quote:Don’t go too far out on a limb bro
LeBron from a physical standpoint could have played in that area and produced
quote:You are too dumb to insult
However, his mental weakness would have wrecked him.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 7:58 pm to TomRollTideRitter
quote:
Ok forget that i mention Lebron so we can have a normal conversation.
What was keeping people in a triple threat stance from straight ripping through that extended hand check, facing the defender who is now IN their chest, and blowing past them?
I’m legitimately asking here.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:14 pm to ReauxlTide222
quote:
What was keeping people in a triple threat stance from straight ripping through that extended hand check, facing the defender who is now IN their chest, and blowing past them?
I’m not laughing at your point so much, but the wording cracked me up.
I don’t think anyone says it was impossible to score before hand check rules, so I’m not sure what your point is.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:21 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Fair enough I’m a bit excited after a 2 over round at Streamsong so forgive my wording.
During the making of the thread it turned into a Lebron thing but it was originally supposed to be a question about why people think hand checking would stop these modern guys.
I didn’t randomly dream this up. I watched a lot of clips of successful hand checking and thought to myself, “oh my word, Lebron would murder these people.”
I’m a bit excited after a 2 over round at Streamsong so forgive my wording. During the making of the thread it turned into a Lebron thing but it was originally supposed to be a question about why people think hand checking would stop these modern guys.
quote:A frick ton of people say this in regards to how modern players would have fared in the tough era of hand checking.
I don’t think anyone says it was impossible to score before hand check rules
I didn’t randomly dream this up. I watched a lot of clips of successful hand checking and thought to myself, “oh my word, Lebron would murder these people.”
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:25 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:This was my first thought.
It doesn't help LeBron as much as the smaller point guards with tremendous skill but less strength and athleticism. See Steve Nash whose performance, efficiency, and impact skyrocketed after the handcheck rules were implemented.
Compare what Harden gets away with and how refs suck his dick any time someone accidentally touches his jersey while he’s extending arms and shoving them, to a PG getting hand checked and I get it.
But guys like Lebron? I see him being even BETTER with little guys up in his chest in that era.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:26 pm to Sorrento Muddbugs
quote:Lebron?
Imagine getting fouled on every dribble with no ref blowing the whistle.
You got that completely opposite. The bigger, more powerful guys always get the worst of the whistles, in totality.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:29 pm to HangmanPage1
quote:
LeBron from a physical standpoint could have played in that area and produced. However, his mental weakness would have wrecked him.
Yep, the guy along with MJ has all the best shooting numbers in the final minute or final seconds of playoff games couldn't handle the 80s and 90s due to the mental aspect.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:29 pm to saintsfan1977
quote:
Bird could play in this era and make LeBron look like shite.
Posted on 5/13/23 at 8:43 pm to shel311
I’m a big proponent of Bird being able to wreck fools in this era.
But he’d make Lebron look dumb?
Also can we get back to what hand checking influenced?
Like we got awesome players now who can’t defend the pnr or can’t shoot quite enough to play late in games or against bad matchups.
Was that a thing for the hand check too?
Like Aw man, so and so is real nice(we’ll call them Gilbert) but the hand checking has picked up in the playoffs and Gilbert here can’t get minutes in the 4th quarter.
For my entire life I’ve heard that guys today could not make it in the days of hand checking. Where the shite did that come from?
But he’d make Lebron look dumb?
Also can we get back to what hand checking influenced?
Like we got awesome players now who can’t defend the pnr or can’t shoot quite enough to play late in games or against bad matchups.
Was that a thing for the hand check too?
Like Aw man, so and so is real nice(we’ll call them Gilbert) but the hand checking has picked up in the playoffs and Gilbert here can’t get minutes in the 4th quarter.
For my entire life I’ve heard that guys today could not make it in the days of hand checking. Where the shite did that come from?
Posted on 5/13/23 at 9:11 pm to ReauxlTide222
It’s pretty much only people who are 45+ who say that shite. It’s just nostalgia. “None of these guys could play against the players I loved when I was young and started watching sports”
We will probably say the same shite in 10 years when some young kid guy who doesn’t play defense and scores 30+ a game comes along and the media sucks his dick
I really wonder how the NBA will go once Lebron leaves. A lot of the current media guys have made careers off of sucking Lebrons cock or constantly hating on everything he does.
Giannas, Luka, Embiid, and Jokic are all foreigners and aren’t very marketable. Morant and Trae Young are unlikable. Zion doesn’t play enough for people to care. Tatum seems nice but boring.
We will probably say the same shite in 10 years when some young kid guy who doesn’t play defense and scores 30+ a game comes along and the media sucks his dick
I really wonder how the NBA will go once Lebron leaves. A lot of the current media guys have made careers off of sucking Lebrons cock or constantly hating on everything he does.
Giannas, Luka, Embiid, and Jokic are all foreigners and aren’t very marketable. Morant and Trae Young are unlikable. Zion doesn’t play enough for people to care. Tatum seems nice but boring.
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