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re: Cam Newton is the MVP

Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:54 am to
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 10:54 am to
My vote right now is for Brady.

I'd like to see Cam win it but Brady is just too good. As previously mentioned, this is one of the best team efforts I've ever seen. Defense keeps stepping up and keeping us in a position to win. Different players on offense keep stepping up too. Looks like Funchess is finally sliding into the role we intended. Having KB opposite of him next year could get nasty. And Olsen... just wow.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30819 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Looks like Funchess is finally sliding into the role we intended.


He's had 6 total receptions in his last three games.

I love Tom Brady but if he's the Panthers QB they aren't 9-0.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 11:54 am to
It's Brady, but Cam is the reason the Panthers are good.

Not only because of his play, but also because he has allowed the organization to focus on building a great D the past few years, knowing Cam could carry the offense without them having to focus draft picks and free agent pickups on skill positions for the offense.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26173 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

You really gonna ignore his 2 games played in tropical downpours and his WRs highest drop rate in the NFL?



Take those two games out and he should be around 65-70% right?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 2:10 pm to
Carson Palmer is the MVP, check the stats
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38009 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

Take those two games out and he should be around 65-70% right?


Nope, 59%. And if the drop rate of his WR were even league average, he's probably be around 62%.

And, considering the Air Coryell offense that Rivera/Shula runs at Carolina, with the majority of the primary patterns being deep outs, seam routes, posts, and flies, he is *always* going to have a lower completion percentage than guys like, for instance, the Falcons starter, Melty "Captain Checkdown" Ice. They don't throw many screens and slants in the version of the Coryell that Rivera/Shula run... you know, the kind of pass that Melty thrives on?
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 4:52 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:52 pm to
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 4:54 pm to
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Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38009 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:42 pm to
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And if Cam is the QB of the Patriots, they aren't 9-0 either. The Patriots offense requires an accurate passer.

Not sure what point you're trying to make here.


Exactly.

The Patriots offense *requires* a guy with pin-point accuracy in the short passing game. Cam is the antithesis of that kind of QB.

The Panthers offense requires a QB with a huge arm for deep outs and deep passes downfield. Cam *is* that guy. But, as I've pointed out before, comparing the "accuracy" of guys in offenses separated so far philosophically is just silly.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:43 pm to
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I'd love to see Matt Cassel take over this Panther team and go 11-5.



Team went 16-0 the year before

Carolina has an amazing defense which works very nicely with Cam's style and running ability
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 5:44 pm
Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:47 pm to
quote:

Carson Palmer is the MVP, check the stats



Palmer's had a solid season. But he's not winning the MVP.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Cam is the man, but the defense is the real reason we're 9-0.



Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6199 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
Tom Brady's instant MVP.

Deal with it.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

Brady is running away with the MVP right now.

still is.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105393 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:26 pm to
Brady will need to stumble a bit for Cam to win the MVP. I think Cam will be happy winning the division, NFC and making it to the SB and not winning the MVP.
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
7625 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 2:32 pm to
MVP is as dumb as doing the heisman before the bowls. wait til season is over.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38009 posts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

Cam is the man, but the defense is the real reason we're 9-0.


The defense that gave up an 80 yard TD pass today before the offense had to come in and restore order?
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33001 posts
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:36 pm to
I am not watching the game but my goodness I just checked ESPN.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
202661 posts
Posted on 12/20/15 at 1:40 pm to
Quality bump...

Its not like we don't have enough Panther threads already..........
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