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re: Buy or sell: Loser of FSU vs. ND next week will not make the playoff
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:29 am to lilaznfish123
Posted on 10/12/14 at 12:29 am to lilaznfish123
Sell:
FSU could still get in with one loss because they're the defending national champions, they would have the ACC championship, and they may make an impression with the committee by blowing out hapless ACC teams the rest of the year.
Notre Dame would get love from the committee as a one loss team because an end-of-year win over USC would be fresh in their minds, a viable one-loss team from the Pac-12 might not even be available this year, and there is a lot of media love for ND.
A couple of caveats, though:
- Neither team can get blown out.
- And the loser of the game will need help.
FSU could still get in with one loss because they're the defending national champions, they would have the ACC championship, and they may make an impression with the committee by blowing out hapless ACC teams the rest of the year.
Notre Dame would get love from the committee as a one loss team because an end-of-year win over USC would be fresh in their minds, a viable one-loss team from the Pac-12 might not even be available this year, and there is a lot of media love for ND.
A couple of caveats, though:
- Neither team can get blown out.
- And the loser of the game will need help.
This post was edited on 10/12/14 at 12:30 am
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Posted on 10/12/14 at 1:22 am to BuckYoshi
quote:
I think the appropriate question to ask is how bad will ND lose next week
FSU legitimately is not a top 5 team in the nation.
I think Notre Dame could compete with them.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 3:10 am to lilaznfish123
ND 24
FSU 21
Book it.
FSU 21
Book it.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:25 am to lilaznfish123
I think fsu can get in if they lose and win all the rest of their games. But notre dame won't
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:32 am to BayouBengals03
quote:
FSU legitimately is not a top 5 team in the nation.
Who are these 5 teams who are better? Their isn't a complete team in the country. Hers the 5-25 team list
Are TCU, BAMA, Michigan State, and Arizona Better than FSU? They each have rather noticeable weaknesses. Notre Dame is going to have a chance to prove they are better than FSU.
quote:
6 Notre Dame 5-0 1186
7 Alabama 4-1 1060
8 Michigan State 4-1 981
9 TCU 4-0 979
10 Arizona 5-0 951
11 Oklahoma 4-1 904
12 Oregon 4-1 888
13 Georgia 4-1 854
14 Texas A&M 5-1 731
15 Ohio State 4-1 534
16 Oklahoma State 4-1 527
17 Kansas State 4-1 486
18 UCLA 4-1 460
19 East Carolina 4-1 344
20 Arizona State 4-1 325
21 Nebraska 5-1 283
22 Georgia Tech 5-0 235
23 Missouri 4-1 212
24 Utah 4-1 206
25 Stanford
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:32 am to SeminoleMarine
But neither team beat Syracuse in an impressive manner.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 8:37 am to lilaznfish123
Sell. A one-loss FSU would still be a P5 champion, ND is a name brand school and will always be given a better postseason spot than it earned. Either will get in over a 2-loss team.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:02 am to lilaznfish123
Sell.
If Fla St loses and is a 1 loss ACC Champion and reigning national champion they are still in.
If ND loses on the road to the defending national champion and then wins out, they will most definitely be there as well.
If Fla St loses and is a 1 loss ACC Champion and reigning national champion they are still in.
If ND loses on the road to the defending national champion and then wins out, they will most definitely be there as well.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 9:06 am to QuackAttack716
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ND has one of the strongest schedules in the country.
must be the part they haven't played yet
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:04 am to SeminoleMarine
FSU couldn't run the ball or protect the qb against Clemson. Both teams are bad. FSU gives up over 40 to NC state, wouldn't surprise me at all if ND wins.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:05 am to Jawja_Joe
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Both teams are bad
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:08 am to castorinho
Neither of these teams are very good.
That Syracuse team that FSU let score 20 is legit bad, and an NCST team that had FSU'a defense looking like it was playing with 9 men didn't score a single point the following weekend in Clemson.
I still can't believe we gave that game away in Tallahassee. FSU is a 2 loss team this year.
That Syracuse team that FSU let score 20 is legit bad, and an NCST team that had FSU'a defense looking like it was playing with 9 men didn't score a single point the following weekend in Clemson.
I still can't believe we gave that game away in Tallahassee. FSU is a 2 loss team this year.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:13 am to FootballNostradamus
The Notre Dame nothing is as good as a 4 loss SEC bias is rampant today.
The loser of this game wins out they should be in but won't
My picks are
B1G Winner
SEC Winner
PAC 12 Winner
ACC winner
I think Baylor gets beat by both Oklahoma schools and OU losing to TCU kills them because people will look head to head and TCU may lose again.
The loser of this game wins out they should be in but won't
My picks are
B1G Winner
SEC Winner
PAC 12 Winner
ACC winner
I think Baylor gets beat by both Oklahoma schools and OU losing to TCU kills them because people will look head to head and TCU may lose again.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 11:13 am to FootballNostradamus
No team in the country is really good though. So...
Posted on 10/12/14 at 2:13 pm to Socratics
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Who are these 5 teams who are better? Their isn't a complete team in the country. Hers the 5-25 team list
Yeah, it's really hard to say FSU isn't one of the five best teams in the country. This happens a lot when people discuss polls: "Teams X, Y and Z are overrated." "Then who's underrated?" "Well... I don't know, but I do know X, Y and Z are overrated!" FSU almost certainly isn't as good as they were last year. They also look like a team that might not be in the top-five many other years. But up to this point in the season, there's really no reason you can say they're not a top-five team, especially looking at the rest of college football. Beat a good Clemson team without Jameis, gave Oklahoma State its only loss, still undefeated, etc.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 2:17 pm to lilaznfish123
Notre Dame won't make playoff either way.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 2:18 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:
Sell. A one-loss FSU would still be a P5 champion, ND is a name brand school and will always be given a better postseason spot than it earned. Either will get in over a 2-loss team.
Well, if either of them finish with one-loss, they should definitely finish ahead of any two-loss team in the nation (except, perhaps, an SEC West team).
Also, your point about ND giving a better postseason spot is inaccurate. Just look at where ND was in the polls two years ago in early November. Also, look where ND is now: the lowest-ranked of the five unbeaten Power Five teams.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 4:21 pm to lilaznfish123
ND is going to beat the ever living frick out of Free Shoes.
Posted on 10/12/14 at 4:52 pm to lilaznfish123
Buy. Either team is out of the playoff with a loss. I know a lot of people think FSU could still get in because they are the defending champs, but who would they have beaten? One top-25 team (Oklahoma State) in the opening week, and MAYBE another in Clemson if they can hang onto their ranking (they're #22 right now). Nobody else that FSU plays the rest of the way is ranked, and it's not like they're going to face a juggernaut in the ACC title game. With a home loss to Notre Dame, I don't think the Noles' resume would stack up to that of other contenders. That said, I suspect the conversation is moot--I predict FSU beats Notre Dame by at least two scores.
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