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re: Bryce Harper got tossed for being out of the batter's box
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:38 pm to Wayne Campbell
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:38 pm to Wayne Campbell
Harper stepped out while that was happening, which was fine. Then was told to get back in and started mouthing back and SARCASTICALLY got in the box.
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Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:40 pm to sicboy
quote:THE HORROR!!!!! EJECT HIM!!!!! I AM UMPIRE!!!!! CALL ME GODDDD!!! THE PEOPLE PAY TO SEE ME!!!!!!!
SARCASTICALLY got in the box.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:42 pm to lsupride87
I love how you guys ignore everything else that happened up until that moment and exclaim that's a dumb reason to get ejected when it's been fully explained it was the tipping point.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:44 pm to sicboy
I love how you're taking up for an incompetent, control-freak umpire 
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:45 pm to KosmoCramer
Somebody has to. We've tried telling you that both parties have some fault in this, but no, Bryce is a completely innocent bystander.
I asked earlier if he has a reputation and never got an answer. Is this based on this one incident?
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incompetent, control-freak umpire
I asked earlier if he has a reputation and never got an answer. Is this based on this one incident?
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:46 pm to sicboy
quote:We fully understand. What you dont understand is him being ejected from the game is still absolutely ridiculous
I love how you guys ignore everything else that happened up until that moment and exclaim that's a dumb reason to get ejected when it's been fully explained it was the tipping point.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:48 pm to sicboy
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Somebody has to. We've tried telling you that both parties have some fault in this, but no, Bryce is a completely innocent bystander.
The ump was awful, just admit it.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:48 pm to lsupride87
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What you dont understand is him being ejected from the game is still absolutely ridiculous
Not any more than every other ejection that happens in baseball.
Everyone is acting like he was suspended for the year.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:49 pm to sicboy
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How did he escalate it?
did someone else take off his mask while harper was in the box?
Maybe it was the catcher barking at the dugout...
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Or are you talking about Williams and suggesting he should ignore a manager yelling at him?
That was certainly an option. On that realistically would've prevented the whole situation. Or he could've just tossed Matt, instead he gave us a show.
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:50 pm to sicboy
quote:First of all, I disagree. Second of all, follow my arguments. I think baseball needs to fix this as a whole. Some of their ejections are crazy
Not any more than every other ejection that happens in baseball.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:51 pm to piggidyphish
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did someone else take off his mask while harper was in the box?
Why is everyone hung up on him taking his mask off? This is pretty standard for umps to do even if it's just a basic conversation with a manager/ump.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:53 pm to sicboy
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Why is everyone hung up on him taking his mask off?
Because he then yelled at a player for not being in the box that through his actions had caused the delay for the player to leave the box.
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This is pretty standard for umps to do even if it's just a basic conversation with a manager/ump.
Do umps always engage a manager in the dugout who is bitching about a bad call?
This post was edited on 5/21/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:55 pm to lsupride87
quote:
I think baseball needs to fix this as a whole. Some of their ejections are crazy
I agree, but this isn't the worst example you can find. Harper did enough to get ejected, regardless of what everyone wants to admit. If the commish sits the umps down and defines the leeway they need to start giving everyone, that's another story. Baseball is the worst about unwritten rules, and one of the big ones is don't mouth off to the umps, especially involving balls and strikes. Even though most would say that was definitely a ball, that rule was broken, and things escalated. Ump can't get thrown out himself, so what do you do?
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:56 pm to sicboy
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but this isn't the worst example you can find.
Of course it isn't. Umps are people who have bad days just like everyone else. And when those days happen they do something stupid like this and show their asses.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:57 pm to piggidyphish
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Because he then yelled at a player for not being in the box that through his actions had caused the delay for the player to leave the box.
So what? Was there any moment where Harper motioned for him to put his mask on and THEN he would get back in the box? No, he pointed at it for some reason, and then did the thing.
Do we know what the ump actually said to Harper?
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Do umps always engage a manager in the dugout who is bitching about a bad call?
They at least tell them to shut the hell up. You'll usually see the manager get a warning glare, then the mask will come off and a finger is pointed. If it keeps up, then it's on. Umps don't ignore that crap. I don't know where everyone is getting that he should.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:57 pm to sicboy
quote:Suspend him two weeks without pay. And continue to so so until umps realize it isnt about them. To be ejected from the game needs to take an egregious act by a player
Ump can't get thrown out himself, so what do you do?
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:59 pm to lsupride87
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I think baseball needs to fix this as a whole. Some of their ejections are crazy
The issue is that baseball doesn't really have an escalating penalty system. It's basically verbal warning (maybe) then-boom-ejection.
Basketball you have to get two Ts, soccer two yellow cards. Football, at least at the pro level, almost never ejects anyone.
In baseball, ejections are almost entirely at the umpire's discretion. Pretty much the only cut and dry ejection is for throwing a punch. Everything else involves "intent."
Posted on 5/21/15 at 1:59 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Suspend him two weeks without pay
I really feel like you guys are arguing why baseball is baseball.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 2:00 pm to sicboy
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Do we know what the ump actually said to Harper?
I hope it was the 'magic words.'
The ump is there to call and control the game...not be the star. This guy didn't get that memo. Acted like an arse, and unnecessarily chased a player due to a situation he escalated. Is harper a saint...no...but he shouldn't have been tossed.
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Umps don't ignore that crap. I don't know where everyone is getting that he should.
Well i look forward to a day when a manager can tell the ump to kick rocks and he doesn't retaliate by chasing a player.
Posted on 5/21/15 at 2:02 pm to sicboy
quote:I am saying instead of accepting the shitty parts of baseball, lets be proactive and fix it instead of saying "it's baseball." I mean geez, why are you so against taking steps to improve the product?
I really feel like you guys are arguing why baseball is baseball.
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