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re: Braves trade Kimbrel and Upton to the Padres
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:17 am to lsu31always
Posted on 4/6/15 at 9:17 am to lsu31always
The Braves had a hard time drawing big crowds even when they were good. Probably back to minor league type crowds this year. Who wants to watch this team? Not me
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Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:23 am to auburnphan23
Good. Get the frick outta my section then so I can sprawl out and enjoy the game with the Braves fans that aren't bandwagoners.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:26 am to blkhawktiger
There's a difference between bandwagoners and fans who are pissed off at the front office for this shitty offseason. I go to the series when the Braves are in Pittsburgh every season but it'll be hard to drive two hours and spend the money knowing they'll score 4 runs in 3 games if they get lucky.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:26 am to auburnphan23
I don't think the Braves have had a hard time drawing big crowds at all. We have averaged 30k a game over 81 home games for the past 2 years.
I'll watch this team because I am a fan. By your statement, you don't seem like a phan at all.
quote:
Who wants to watch this team? Not me
I'll watch this team because I am a fan. By your statement, you don't seem like a phan at all.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:28 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:33 am to VADawg
Shitty offseason? You don't know how this works, do you?
The only thing that was headscratching was the Markakis signing. Everything else is this front office finally doing the right thing. You can't get attached to players. Those huge contracts were going to lead us down a terrible path. How some fans still don't see this is mind-boggling.
The only thing that was headscratching was the Markakis signing. Everything else is this front office finally doing the right thing. You can't get attached to players. Those huge contracts were going to lead us down a terrible path. How some fans still don't see this is mind-boggling.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:35 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:56 am to blkhawktiger
Trading a franchise cornerstone (Heyward) for a #4 starter was just awful. The Kimbrel/BJ trade was fine but I wasn't a big fan of the Gattis and Justin trades either. This lineup isn't gonna make any pitchers lose sleep.
They traded Gattis for what sounds like a future closer (awful) and Upton for a minor league pitcher coming off of Tommy John surgery doesn't inspire any confidence either
They traded Gattis for what sounds like a future closer (awful) and Upton for a minor league pitcher coming off of Tommy John surgery doesn't inspire any confidence either
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 10:59 am to VADawg
You realize it's not about this year really? The previous GM put us in a very tough place. Hart is doing what needs to be done to get us back on track. The Kimbrel trade was great. The JUp, Gattis, and Heyward trade were all really nice.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:09 am to VADawg
Hold on hold on. You would really rather have Heyward for one season, than Shelby Miller and Tyrell Jenkins for multiple years? 
I loved Gattis's story and style of play but he's an AL guy all the way. Round peg in a square hole here playing LF and C. Career DH.
This farm system has been completely retooled and some people's narrow focus is blinding them to what this front office was able to pull off yesterday.
I loved Gattis's story and style of play but he's an AL guy all the way. Round peg in a square hole here playing LF and C. Career DH.
This farm system has been completely retooled and some people's narrow focus is blinding them to what this front office was able to pull off yesterday.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:16 am to auburnphan23
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The Braves had a hard time drawing big crowds even when they were good.
How? Average attendance for most of the 90s was in low to mid-40K range through the 2000 season (with the exception of 95/96 due to the fans being pissed about the strike).
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:17 am to blkhawktiger
No I would have rather signed Heyward long term.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:20 am to VADawg
quote:
Trading a franchise cornerstone (Heyward) for a #4 starter was just awful
Just out of curiosity, what were the braves going to do with heyward this year. Meaning would he have really added anything to the team meaningful, like getting to the playoffs? If not, why keep him. Or do you think the return for a guy who has only 1 year left on his contract and has issues, wasn't high enough?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:26 am to VADawg
Wasn't going to happen. Like it or not, JHey is going to demand an albatross of a contract after this year. In fact, I doubt even the Cards will pony up to what he'll be looking for.
Look, I really liked JHey. He's a great face to any franchise and a really good player. But this team simply was not in a position to suck down a huge contract like what he'll demand. Sorry but it was the right move to trade him.
Look, I really liked JHey. He's a great face to any franchise and a really good player. But this team simply was not in a position to suck down a huge contract like what he'll demand. Sorry but it was the right move to trade him.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:28 am to VADawg
quote:
Trading a franchise cornerstone (Heyward) for a #4 starter was just awfu
you realize
1) we got Jenkins too, who by all accounts looks like he has a very bright future
and
2) we were about to lose Heyward for absolutely nothing after this season
right?
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:29 am to beaver
Nah Braves would not have lost him, just paid him for the next 8-10 years at 20-25m a year
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:30 am to tduecen
My point exactly. His contract would have been/is going to be ridiculous.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 11:31 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:32 am to blkhawktiger
But if he develops 20-30 home run power (and he could easily) then it will become a bargain as long as he is hitting .270-.280 and playing gold glove defense
dude is only 25 with a career .351 OBP and has shown power in the past
dude is only 25 with a career .351 OBP and has shown power in the past
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 11:33 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:42 am to tduecen
I've said many times in here that I really like JHEy. Elite defensively, consistently productive at the plate and can move on the bases. Somebody will get him next year and will get a great player. But, for the Braves, it simply doesn't make sense. Keeping him this year would not have guaranteed that we'd be able to sign him. And what a waste it would have been to wait it out only to not sign him and therefore get nothing in return.
This post was edited on 4/6/15 at 11:43 am
Posted on 4/6/15 at 11:59 am to blkhawktiger
When your core is all 28 and younger (assuming Heyward signed) with Freeman, Simmons, Kimbrel, Minor, Teahen the future is always bright
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:07 pm to tduecen
So you agree they should've offloaded JUp?
BJ had to go, though nobody was going to take that contract unless they got a Kimbrel-type piece. I'll take a core of Simmons, Freeman, Peraza, Bethancourt, Julio, Minor and Wisler.
BJ had to go, though nobody was going to take that contract unless they got a Kimbrel-type piece. I'll take a core of Simmons, Freeman, Peraza, Bethancourt, Julio, Minor and Wisler.
Posted on 4/6/15 at 12:35 pm to blkhawktiger
So, the Braves just DFA'd Carlos Quentin. I guess I really don't understand what the Braves are doing here.
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