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Braves aquire Nick Swisher/Bourn/$$$ for Johnson

Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:12 pm
Posted by stlslick
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:12 pm
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Tim Brown ?@TBrownYahoo 8m8 minutes ago

Source: Braves close to acquiring Nick Swisher from Indians.



Bourn/Swisher and cash go to Braves for Johnson
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:12 pm to
Thought the trade deadline passed
Posted by lsurulz1515
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:13 pm to
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Thought the trade deadline passed


So I'm not the only one that doesn't get how things like this happen after July every year.
Posted by T1gerWonder
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:17 pm to
Looks like Chris Johnson is going from Atlanta to Cleveland though
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:18 pm to
July 31st was the non-waiver trade deadline.
Players can be traded afterwards, but they must clear waivers, and i believe the team recieving the player must pick up his salary.

The waiver deadline is August 31st
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 2:20 pm
Posted by volfan30
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:22 pm to
Braves getting Swisher, Bourn and cash for Chris Johnson.
Posted by OptimusDawg
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:22 pm to
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Thought the trade deadline passed


So I'm not the only one that doesn't get how things like this happen after July every year.


Waiver wire trades. Player has to be placed on Waivers and not claimed by a different team for the trade to go through. Its still confusing to me, I'm sure someone can explain it better.
Posted by OptimusDawg
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:23 pm to
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Braves getting Swisher, Bourn and cash for Chris Johnson.




Posted by Toula
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:27 pm to
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Thought the trade deadline passed


Teams put guys on waivers.
Other teams can claim said player.
Waiver order is worst to first by league. (NL waiver order is priority if NL guy is dropped)

If guy is claimed, his current team can:
1-Pull back the player (and he can't be put on waivers again)
2-Coordinate a trade that involves player
3-Just let player go to team and they absorb contract ( a la Alex Rios to White Sox a few years ago)

I think that's it.

Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:30 pm to
We got rid of Chris Johnson!!!

John Hart
Posted by BCMCubs
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:31 pm to
Won't this be Bourn's second tour with the Braves?
Posted by TTownTiger
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Teams put guys on waivers. Other teams can claim said player. Waiver order is worst to first by league. (NL waiver order is priority if NL guy is dropped) If guy is claimed, his current team can:
1-Pull back the player (and he can't be put on waivers again)
2-Coordinate a trade only with the claiming team that involves player
3-Just let player go to team and they absorb contract ( a la Alex Rios to White Sox a few years ago)

I think that's it.


Yep pretty much. I added that one little part to avoid confusion, but I am sure that's what you meant.

If he isn't claimed, he can be traded to any team in the league after that waiver period is up.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

So I'm not the only one that doesn't get how things like this happen after July every year.
It's very easy.

Trades on or before July 31 are non-waiver trades. Starting August 1, teams are required to place any player they wish on waivers. Reasons vary, but mostly by August many teams put many of their players on waivers to gauge interest in them.

Once a player is on waivers, teams get a chance to claim them. The claims process goes from decending order of the standings in the waiving team's league. Say the Cubs put Rafael Soriano on waivers--the worst team in the National League gets first right to claim him. Then it goes from worst to first in the NL. After he clears waivers in the NL, it goes the same for the AL.

After a team claims the player, the teams have a certain amount of time (two or three days, I think) to work out a deal. The waiving team has several options to work with--they can allow the claiming team to assume the rest of the waived player's contract (like Alex Rios and the White Sox not too long ago), the two teams can work out a trade, or the waiving team can pull him back from the waiver wire and the player can't be waived again for the season (I think).

In September, trades can be made the same way but the caveat is that any player put on the roster on or after September 1 that wasn't there before September 1 is not eligible for the postseason roster.

I did all that off memory, so I'm sorry if it's not all 100% correct.
Posted by lsusportsman2
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Won't this be Bourn's second tour with the Braves?


It will be, yes.
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:00 pm to
Did I do that right?

I forgot to add the situation that a player may clear waivers and go unclaimed. I think he can then be a free agent at that point, correct? Or elect to take a minor league assignment (designate for assignment) with the waiving team.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 3:04 pm
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:01 pm to
It's easiest to just Google it MLBTR has an easy full rundown on it
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:02 pm to
Yea baw. You took my post and added more words to it.
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Did I do that right?

I forgot to add the situation that a player may clear waivers and go unclaimed. I think he can then be a free agent at that point, correct? Or elect to take a minor league assignment (designate for assignment) with the waiving team.



yes, that wouldn't be a "waiver trade" though, it would just be a pure waiver.. obvious I know, but that is the difference.
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