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Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:11 am to Woopigsooie20
Why do people assume trading Thomas will be an easy task? The shopping of him in the first place means you don't think he's a championship caliber player that should get max money, yet people think they will get top 15-20 superstar type return on the investment?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:12 am to AlaTiger
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Who do you get for Thomas that makes up for the scoring and can fill holes?
You don't have to get equivalent value. Say you sign Blake in the offseason with your cap space after drafting Ball-- your scoring has been covered.
Say trade Thomas to the Knicks for their 1st next year, Top 5 protected, and the right to swap picks in the 1st the next 2 years. Who says no?
Not the Celtics. Not the Knicks.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:14 am to ShamelessPel
I agree they can't win a championship with a 5'9 PG.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:17 am to ShamelessPel
Ehh, he's been terrific this year, but he is expendable imo. If they can get someone in FA and draft Fultz ( not a big fan of ball), he's easily tradeable and somebody will want the fun volume scorer.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:19 am to AlaTiger
PG. Can't win a title with Thomas as your best player. Too much of a liability defensively. They need to move on from him. Will be tough for singe though bc he has reached cult status up there.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:22 am to ShamelessPel
quote:it's easier right now than it'll ever be.
Why do people assume trading Thomas will be an easy task?
I'm sure you agree your not winning a title with him as your #1 option, so wouldn't selling him at his highest point be the prudent option?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:26 am to shel311
Ainge will have to have steel in his veins and get real value to trade Thomas right now. He is the team leader, without question. Boston could win 54 games or so this year and you trade your All-Star PG, team leader, fan favorite, and #2 scorer in the NBA on a top 5 team in the league. You better get value that clearly makes them better.
I agree that you can't be emotional about this, but that is Isaiah Thomas' team right now.
I agree that you can't be emotional about this, but that is Isaiah Thomas' team right now.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:29 am to AlaTiger
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but that is Isaiah Thomas' team right now.
It isn't.
It remains the team of Boston Celtics ownership; if they're interested in spending the next 3 years competing for a spot in the Eastern Conference finals, they can easily keep Thomas and overpay him.
If they're interested in trying to become a title contender for the next decade, they trade him.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:29 am to AlaTiger
quote:I don't disagree at all.
Ainge will have to have steel in his veins and get real value to trade Thomas right now. He is the team leader, without question. Boston could win 54 games or so this year and you trade your All-Star PG, team leader, fan favorite, and #2 scorer in the NBA on a top 5 team in the league. You better get value that clearly makes them better
But is Ainge a leader willing to make the best move for his team or not? A true leader has that type of vision and doesn't care what fans will think.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:34 am to shel311
shel311 would your boy Westbrook be open to a trade??
Dead serious. If they got that 1-3 pick, could Boston trade Thomas, #3 pick, and say Smart to OKC? Westbrook can come and they can sign Blake Griffin. Westbrook, Griffin, Johnson, Horford, Bradley?
If they can or wish to sign Amir in the off-season that is.
Dead serious. If they got that 1-3 pick, could Boston trade Thomas, #3 pick, and say Smart to OKC? Westbrook can come and they can sign Blake Griffin. Westbrook, Griffin, Johnson, Horford, Bradley?
If they can or wish to sign Amir in the off-season that is.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:36 am to reo45
quote:He's not my boy, and that's not his choice.
shel311 would your boy Westbrook be open to a trade??
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:36 am to AlaTiger
De'Aaron Fox
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:41 am to shel311
I thought he had a no-trade clause, but figured you would know off the top of your head since you are a big defender/fan of his.
If not, that is fine.
Still, the trade wouldn't be that outlandish considering it is Boston.
If not, that is fine.
Still, the trade wouldn't be that outlandish considering it is Boston.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:42 am to reo45
No team looking to win a title would trade for Westbrook. His hero ball style and lack of D will never win a title.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:43 am to reo45
quote:Maybe he does I don't know.
I thought he had a no-trade clause
You seem to follow him MUCH more than I do.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:45 am to AlaTiger
I'm trading Isiah, then drafting either Lonzo or Fultz (whichever Ainge likes). In my mind, those two are neck and neck at 1. I wish more people could've seen Fultz. Kid is really polished
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:47 am to Boomshockalocka
So what do you do? Boston has a plethora of assets, but how do you get what you need for a title run?
That is Ainge's dilemma and has been for a couple of years now. Boston has cap space, draft picks, a young and talented roster, and a great coach. But, how do they get over the top with these assets?
I like the "trade Thomas" idea. But, you better get something huge in return. And, with all their cap space as well, you're talking about getting a top player in trade and also signing a top player to go along with Horford, Bradley, Brown, Crowder, etc.
The question remains, though: If you're trading Thomas, to whom and who do you get that makes it worth if for Boston?
That is Ainge's dilemma and has been for a couple of years now. Boston has cap space, draft picks, a young and talented roster, and a great coach. But, how do they get over the top with these assets?
I like the "trade Thomas" idea. But, you better get something huge in return. And, with all their cap space as well, you're talking about getting a top player in trade and also signing a top player to go along with Horford, Bradley, Brown, Crowder, etc.
The question remains, though: If you're trading Thomas, to whom and who do you get that makes it worth if for Boston?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:54 am to AlaTiger
Checking the draft sites I see Josh Jackson as being Boston's pick. I said that earlier. Draft Jackson and package a deal for an established superstar. Jackson is going to be an elite talent in this league. Unless he decides to completely go criminal he will excel.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 12:55 am to AlaTiger
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The question remains, though: If you're trading Thomas, to whom and who do you get that makes it worth if for Boston?
You don't have to get equivalent value, which is, I think, your sticking point. You defer some of that value-- there isn't going to suddenly be no trade market for Thomas.
Kicking the can down the road for assets makes absolute sense for Boston--the deal I mentioned with NY would be perfect, as would any number of other scenarios.
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