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re: Boston Globe: Patriots brought this on themselves

Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:12 pm to
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:12 pm to
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Damn, that is a great article considering it's usually a homer read.


Not really. As previously mentioned it's a Shaughnessy piece. He's Boston's version of Bayless.

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It’s hard to get excited about these Red Sox
By Dan Shaughnessy
The Boston Globe
February 24, 2013
FORT MYERS, Fla. — The air is warm and fresh. Everybody is in a good mood. Players in the clubhouse are especially relaxed. No one is looking for snitches or rolling their eyes at the mention of the new manager. There were not a lot of fans for the first week of Red Sox workouts. We witnessed none of the Beatlemania of 2005. The Red Sox were not visited by many members of the national media. No sign of the ESPN bus. Sox workouts were not featured on live television. There was no daily presence from members of the New York newspapers. This must be what it feels like covering the Pittsburgh Pirates in Bradenton every spring.

The 2013 Red Sox have reinvented themselves. Surly, entitled ballplayers have been replaced by stand-up guys. Churl has yielded to character. Larry Lucchino actually said the $170 million Red Sox are a team of “scrappy underdogs.’’

Swell, just swell. Hope springs eternal and all that.

But here’s the reality, people: The 2013 Red Sox might be really bad. Worse, they might be really boring.

...

Finally, it’s tough to feel good about Ortiz. He turns 38 this year, and is coming off an Achilles’ tendon injury — an injury he sustained running the bases in front of an Adrian Gonzalez home run last July. Ortiz doesn’t have contract incentive (he finally got his two-year deal, a lifetime achievement award from the Sox), and he is concerned that the Sox did little to find him lineup protection.

Sorry. The juice glass is half-empty today. These guys could be really bad. And really boring. “Scrappy” doesn’t sell in Boston in 2013. Not after everything that’s happened. For $170 million, a little more prime-time talent would have been nice.


The Red Sox won the World Series later that year.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:28 pm to
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Not really. As previously mentioned it's a Shaughnessy piece. He's Boston's version of Bayless.



You ever met a proud Bostonian? They love to get faux-outraged...he is simultaneously catering to his audience while telling the truth. A tough balance.
Posted by northern
Member since Jan 2014
1360 posts
Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:30 pm to
I AM a proud Bostonian...
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 4/27/16 at 8:54 pm to
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I AM a proud Bostonian...



Then you know exactly what I'm talking about

Had a good pal of a few years that was as well and he ate that shite up
All about that Boston pride...the Red Sox jersey with HIS name customized on the back
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22795 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 1:10 am to
Yes, I'm not sure if people outside of New England know about Shaughnessy. He is a legendary troll and anti-whatever is the main opinion in Boston...on purpose I might add. He and Ron Borges have Made an entire career by being trolls long before the term existed. For the life of me I don't understand why people even read them, but hey, if the public up there is going to keep these kinds of writers relevant then that's their own fault.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 2:50 am to
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The wells report had a major agenda. It came to the conclusion it was paid to come to. Of course "an agenda-less" person would come to that conclusion by reading the report that was just as biased as anyone that wouldve been released by Tom Brady himself.

So I'm supposed to believe that the story about a guy who was known as "the deflator" in the Wells Report was the product of an agenda-based narrative. I'm also supposed to believe the Patriots' claim that he was nicknamed such not because he was deflating footballs, but trying to lose weight. That absurdity insults our intelligence. I can't believe they even tried with that stupid shite. Like, what the frick?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65132 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:05 am to
Meh.

It would have been a much bigger deal last year had the suspension been upheld. Their schedule to begin the season was much tougher in 2015. Three of their first four games are in Foxborough, and those games are against Miami, Houston, and Buffalo. Brady's first game back will be against Cleveland and his home opener will be the next week against Cincinnati.

They could very easily be 5-1 when they come into Pittsburgh on October 23 to play the Steelers. IMO they will be 6-2 at the worst when they hit their bye week.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 4:08 am
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 6:44 am to
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Their schedule to begin the season was much tougher in 2015.


You bring up a very good point
Posted by Gator Mike
Member since Sep 2015
532 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:11 am to
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So I'm supposed to believe that the story about a guy who was known as "the deflator" in the Wells Report was the product of an agenda-based narrative.

At this point, why would you believe that any report produced by the NFL isn't agenda-based? You think they didn't have an agenda in Bountygate? There was no agenda in Bullygate? Roger Goodell knew absolutely nothing about the Ray Rice tape until TMZ got their hands on it?

I mean, why would they pick Ted Wells to lead the investigation? Why not pick someone with no ties to the league? Why let incorrect and prejudicial media reports sit unchallenged for months without correcting them?

If you have nothing to hide, why not let Brady's lawyers have access to Wells' interview notes? Why wouldn't you allow one of the co-authors of the Wells Report to be questioned by Brady's attorneys?

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I'm also supposed to believe the Patriots' claim that he was nicknamed such not because he was deflating footballs, but trying to lose weight.

You know what's not in the Wells Report? The fact that the text where McNally told Jastremski to "deflate" was sent moments after Jastremski was seen on TV wearing a puffy jacket that made him look fat. Also, that game was being played in Green Bay, where Jastremski didn't have access to the footballs, and McNally was sitting on his couch in New Hampshire.

The text where McNally calls himself "The Deflator" was sent in February of 2014, I believe. If you think that text was evidence of a scheme to deflate footballs below what is legally allowed, then you also have to believe that the scheme was already in place by this point. In October of that year, Jastremski complained in a text to his girlfriend that the referees had inflated the Patriots' footballs up to 16 PSI, when Brady wanted them at 13 PSI.

I'm sorry, but that court decision is bad news for football fans. It basically says that it's OK for the Commissioner to suspend anyone for any reason for any length of time. He doesn't have to give players due process. He doesn't have to be unbiased. He doesn't have to be consistent. He can play favorites, or he can use the system to settle scores. This decision gives Roger Goodell the power to turn the NFL into his own personal version of the WWE. Regardless of your views on Brady's guilt or innocence, that seems like a really bad idea.

Shame on Goodell for abusing the system, and shame on the NFLPA for allowing it to happen.
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 8:27 am
Posted by gameovergt
Orange Park, FL via Stevenson, AL
Member since Nov 2010
1963 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 10:38 am to
Gator Mike is a GOD and hit it right on the head!
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