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Bob Arum: Mayweather-Pacquiao Fight Imminent
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 3:59 pm
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The megafight that the boxing world has been clamoring for between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. should be finalized in "the next couple days," Top Rank promoter Bob Arum told the New York Post.
The sides have been negotiating what will certainly be the richest fight in boxing history, but no deal has been struck yet. The two fighters met privately for more than an hour on Tuesday in Miami.
"Everybody is doing the right thing," Arum told the Post on Friday. "We're looking to complete the paperwork. Everything is moving in the right direction. Hopefully, the next couple of days it will get done."
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Arum says the fight should be finalized "in the next couple days."
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Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:00 pm to Patrick_Bateman
In before people ignorant of boxing say this fight's not important or intriguing anymore.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:00 pm to Patrick_Bateman
I don't get the excitement now. This needed to happen 8 years ago.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:02 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
In before people ignorant of boxing say this fight's not important or intriguing anymore.
It's a basic fact that I'm less excited about this fight now than I was several years ago.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:03 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:Sure. But it's still the biggest fight possible in boxing.
It's a basic fact that I'm less excited about this fight now than I was several years ago.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:06 pm to Patrick_Bateman
That doesn't make it good.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:07 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:Eight years ago, few people knew who Pacquiao was. And he wasn't in the same weight division as Mayweather. 5-6 years ago is when the hype started. Both fighters may have lost a step during that time, but they're still the two best welterweights and two of the top four P4P fighters in the world [along with Klitschko and Ward (if he ever fights again)]..
I don't get the excitement now. This needed to happen 8 years ago.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:09 pm to SwaggerCopter
quote:
It's a basic fact that I'm less excited about this fight now than I was several years ago.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:12 pm to Patrick_Bateman
He fought De La Hoya in 2008. People started to know his name around the time of the second Marquez fight, no?
This fight needed to happen years ago. Now it looks more like a money grab.
This fight needed to happen years ago. Now it looks more like a money grab.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:16 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:I can't disagree with either of those statements. I'm still pumped for the fight, though.
This fight needed to happen years ago. Now it looks more like a money grab.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:18 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
Sure. But it's still the biggest fight possible in boxing.
It is going to be bigger now than it would have been before in terms of hype and $.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:29 pm to Patrick_Bateman
It is intriguing and the biggest fight possible and will generate more hype and interest than any in boxing since Lewis-Tyson. Like Lewis-Tyson, that doesn't mean it would be a good fight. I see a lot of parallels b/w this fight w/ Lewis-Tyson:
1. It's the technically proficient, defensive fighter who's chronologically older but younger in boxing years versus the ferocious, offensive fighter who is younger chronologically but seems significantly older in boxing years.
2. The fight is happening 8 years too late.
3. The offensive fighter (Tyson/Pac) has recently inflated his record by punishing boxers who are good matchups for him.
4. Pac, like Tyson, is supposedly broke and will take any fight to try to keep up with his incredible expenses due to being surrounded by exploitative management and an entourage of leaches.
5. Mayweather, like Lewis, has had this one contemporary whose legend and shadow has loomed over him as the one great, defining opponent who he has never vanquished to solidify his legacy. Unfortunately, he will be vanquishing just that--a shadow of that legend, broken down and years removed from that ferocity that made him a legend. Ultimately, beating this version of Pac will do very little to prove anything about how he would've fared against prime Pac (Even though I think even in their primes, Mayweather would have been favored based on matchup of styles and Pac struggling against counterpunchers inferior to Mayweather throughout his career. i.e. JMM)
6. Tyson-Lewis was the last time I actually had a fight party at my house and paid for a PPV. Pac-Mayweather will likely be the next IF it happens. In both cases, I expect the defensive fighter to dominate while I root for the offensive fighter hoping against hope.
7. Pac will come out swinging in the first round just like Tyson did and excite the crowd while landing nothing meaningful.
8. After being tagged with a few razor-sharp counters, Pac will start to look frustrated and defeated.
9. I will end up disappointed and pissed that I spent money on a boring televised arse-kicking and try to compensate by drinking.
1. It's the technically proficient, defensive fighter who's chronologically older but younger in boxing years versus the ferocious, offensive fighter who is younger chronologically but seems significantly older in boxing years.
2. The fight is happening 8 years too late.
3. The offensive fighter (Tyson/Pac) has recently inflated his record by punishing boxers who are good matchups for him.
4. Pac, like Tyson, is supposedly broke and will take any fight to try to keep up with his incredible expenses due to being surrounded by exploitative management and an entourage of leaches.
5. Mayweather, like Lewis, has had this one contemporary whose legend and shadow has loomed over him as the one great, defining opponent who he has never vanquished to solidify his legacy. Unfortunately, he will be vanquishing just that--a shadow of that legend, broken down and years removed from that ferocity that made him a legend. Ultimately, beating this version of Pac will do very little to prove anything about how he would've fared against prime Pac (Even though I think even in their primes, Mayweather would have been favored based on matchup of styles and Pac struggling against counterpunchers inferior to Mayweather throughout his career. i.e. JMM)
6. Tyson-Lewis was the last time I actually had a fight party at my house and paid for a PPV. Pac-Mayweather will likely be the next IF it happens. In both cases, I expect the defensive fighter to dominate while I root for the offensive fighter hoping against hope.
7. Pac will come out swinging in the first round just like Tyson did and excite the crowd while landing nothing meaningful.
8. After being tagged with a few razor-sharp counters, Pac will start to look frustrated and defeated.
9. I will end up disappointed and pissed that I spent money on a boring televised arse-kicking and try to compensate by drinking.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:46 pm to Jamohn
quote:Again, this is an exaggeration. Five years is more accurate.
The fight is happening 8 years too late.
quote:Rios and Algieri, yes. But Tim Bradley is not a good matchup for anyone. Bradley also has a similar style to Mayweather IMO.
3. The offensive fighter (Tyson/Pac) has recently inflated his record by punishing boxers who are good matchups for him.
quote:Probably. He's overly generous and is always giving back. If it's true that he's broke, that's pretty sad actually.
4. Pac, like Tyson, is supposedly broke and will take any fight to try to keep up with his incredible expenses due to being surrounded by exploitative management and an entourage of leaches.
quote:Mayweather would have correctly been favored at any point in time. But beating Pac - even though, admittedly, he's not quite in his prime (though I think he's closer than a lot of people give him credit for) - will still do a lot for May's legacy.
Ultimately, beating this version of Pac will do very little to prove anything about how he would've fared against prime Pac (Even though I think even in their primes, Mayweather would have been favored based on matchup of styles and Pac struggling against counterpunchers inferior to Mayweather throughout his career. i.e. JMM)
quote:Same.
6. Tyson-Lewis was the last time I actually had a fight party at my house and paid for a PPV. Pac-Mayweather will likely be the next IF it happens. In both cases, I expect the defensive fighter to dominate while I root for the offensive fighter hoping against hope.
quote:I can see it going down exactly as you describe. But like you, I'll be rooting like hell for a different outcome.
7. Pac will come out swinging in the first round just like Tyson did and excite the crowd while landing nothing meaningful.
8. After being tagged with a few razor-sharp counters, Pac will start to look frustrated and defeated.
9. I will end up disappointed and pissed that I spent money on a boring televised arse-kicking and try to compensate by drinking.
And I'll remain skeptical that the fight will even be made, until it's actually confirmed.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:49 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
In before people ignorant of boxing say this fight's not important or intriguing anymore.
It's neither of those....it's just that the fight didn't take place when the entire sports world was begging for the fight back in 2010 and both fighters looked damn near invincible. That isn't the case anymore.
If this fight happens, you can thank Canelo Alvarez. He stated months ago that he was fighting on Cinco De Mayo weekend and was going to take that date away from Mayweather. Cotto-Canelo was expected to take place on May 2 but then Floyd made his move: he started talking with Cotto about a rematch. This caused the Cotto-Canelo negotiations to come to a halt. Cotto-Canelo is now off the table and Canelo will fight James Kirkland on May 2 on HBO. Floyd is also talking with Pacquiao now. I'd say that Floyd already won the battle for May 2. He prevented Cotto-Canelo from happening and at this point he can fight whoever he wants: Cotto, Pacquiao, Khan, etc. He no longer has to compete with a megafight on May 2.
The fact that Canelo made a bold move and booked a fight on May 2 and was aiming for Cotto made Floyd come out and actually negotiate for a real fight other than freaking Amir Khan.
If Floyd fights Cotto then I think Pacquiao will fight Khan. If Floyd fights Pacquiao then I think Cotto will fight Bradley.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:59 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
7. Pac will come out swinging in the first round just like Tyson did and excite the crowd while landing nothing meaningful.
8. After being tagged with a few razor-sharp counters, Pac will start to look frustrated and defeated.
9. I will end up disappointed and pissed that I spent money on a boring televised arse-kicking and try to compensate by drinking.
This is exactly what happens in every Mayweather fight.
quote:
I can see it going down exactly as you describe. But like you, I'll be rooting like hell for a different outcome.
While Floyd is an obnoxious and arrogant a-hole, I still can't help but pull for him.
I got into boxing right around the time of his fight vs Gatti and I've been hooked ever since. Plus everyone talks so much shite about Mayweather not being able to beat pacman, I need it to happen
Posted on 1/30/15 at 4:59 pm to Patrick_Bateman
Bob Arum needs to STFU until the deal is finalized. He runs his mouth to much and is going to end up saying something that will kill the deal.
Arum was already called out by Showtime execs last week for not knowing what the frick he is talking about. This was after saying that Pac had agreed to every demand and signed the contract and they were just waiting for Mayweather to sign. Basically implying that Floyd is scared to sign. Come to find out, contracts haven't even been drafted yet.
Pac and Arum need Mayweather way more than Mayweather needs them. Arum is going to end up pissing Floyd off and Floyd will just say get the frick and take the Cotto fight instead. That will leave broke arse Pac to scramble to find a fight to earn some money to pay some of his debts
Arum was already called out by Showtime execs last week for not knowing what the frick he is talking about. This was after saying that Pac had agreed to every demand and signed the contract and they were just waiting for Mayweather to sign. Basically implying that Floyd is scared to sign. Come to find out, contracts haven't even been drafted yet.
Pac and Arum need Mayweather way more than Mayweather needs them. Arum is going to end up pissing Floyd off and Floyd will just say get the frick and take the Cotto fight instead. That will leave broke arse Pac to scramble to find a fight to earn some money to pay some of his debts
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:03 pm to Marciano1
quote:I'm down with either of those scenarios. But I don't really want to see Khan fight anyone of note, if it can be avoided.
If Floyd fights Cotto then I think Pacquiao will fight Khan. If Floyd fights Pacquiao then I think Cotto will fight Bradley.
Even if Canelo-Cotto had happened, I still don't think they would've pushed Mayweather off his date.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:06 pm to whoknows1390
quote:It's weird. I watch all his fights so I don't miss a chance to see him lose, but at the same time I'm always happy when he wins.
While Floyd is an obnoxious and arrogant a-hole, I still can't help but pull for him.
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:08 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
Bob Arum needs to STFU until the deal is finalized. He runs his mouth to much and is going to end up saying something that will kill the deal.
Arum was already called out by Showtime execs last week for not knowing what the frick he is talking about. This was after saying that Pac had agreed to every demand and signed the contract and they were just waiting for Mayweather to sign. Basically implying that Floyd is scared to sign. Come to find out, contracts haven't even been drafted yet.
Pac and Arum need Mayweather way more than Mayweather needs them. Arum is going to end up pissing Floyd off and Floyd will just say get the frick and take the Cotto fight instead. That will leave broke arse Pac to scramble to find a fight to earn some money to pay some of his debts
This is why if I'm a betting man (plus going on Floyd-Arum's history), I wouldn't put money on this fight taking place. Mayweather can easily fight Cotto and if he wins, he'll hold belts in three weight classes simultaneously. The lineal middleweight title is one of the most prestigious belts in boxing. We all know Floyd would love to have that belt.
I just think there's a reason Cotto backed off the Canelo fight. Regardless of what happens, Floyd and Al Haymon are some great boxing businessmen.
This post was edited on 1/30/15 at 5:13 pm
Posted on 1/30/15 at 5:10 pm to Patrick_Bateman
quote:
but at the same time I'm always happy when he wins.
The mystique of seeing a guy finish his career undefeated is alluring.
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