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Big 12 playoff math explanation from Stewart Mandel at FOX Sports
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:35 pm
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Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:39 pm to nicholastiger
how about putting some damn context or info in your damn post so we know wtf we're clicking on
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:49 pm to nicholastiger
I think anyone with a lick of common sense would have believed this to be the case.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 3:54 pm to nicholastiger
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Chuck Carlton ? ?@ChuckCarltonDMN
Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby said data from Navigate Research indicates a football title game improves playoff chances by 4-5 percent
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1) If the conference keeps its current model of 10 teams playing nine conference games but adds a championship game, its playoff chances will increase by 4 percentage points, creating 6 percent growth.
2) If the conference expands to 12 teams, keeps its nine-game schedule and adds a championship game, its playoff chances willincrease by 11 percentage points, for a growth of 18 percent.
3) And in the most favorable scenario, where the conference expands to 12 teams, drops from nine league games to eight and adds a title game, the odds increase by 13 percentage points, for a growth of 21 percent.
quote:but I thought the fact the big 12 didn't play a title game had NO effect on their playoff chances
CBSSports.com reported this week per a source that Navigate determined the league's current playoff chances to be 62 percent. If that's the case, we can apply the aforementioned numbers accordingly.
-- With 10 teams and a championship game, playoff chances go from 62 percent to 66 percent.
-- With 12 teams, nine conference games and a title game, playoff chances increase to 73 percent.
-- In the same scenario but with eight league games instead of nine, playoff chances increase to 75 percent.
In the end, that projected 21 percent growth for 12 teams/eight games is even higher than any previously reported number and has to be pretty eye-opening to league officials.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:19 pm to nicholastiger
They might as well add two teams, can't be any worse than Kansas.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:20 pm to WestCoastAg
let's go another way... will the SEC playing 8 conf. games keep out deserving teams in favor of conferences who play 9?
now that we know all this, will there be conscious efforts by the human selection committee to counteract these biases?
now that we know all this, will there be conscious efforts by the human selection committee to counteract these biases?
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:44 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:The SEC ain't gotta do shite but stay black and die.......wait....wrong thread
let's go another way... will the SEC playing 8 conf. games keep out deserving teams in favor of conferences who play 9?
now that we know all this, will there be conscious efforts by the human selection committee to counteract these biases?
Posted on 5/6/16 at 4:58 pm to nicholastiger
So add Colorado State and San Diego State
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:12 pm to nicholastiger
What is pathetic is that the Big 12 needed to hire an outside "analytics" firm to tell them that an 8 game conference schedule and a CCG gives you a better chance of making the playoff 
Really hope WVU finds their way into a P5 conference other than the Big 12 someday, although I am not confident.
Really hope WVU finds their way into a P5 conference other than the Big 12 someday, although I am not confident.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:15 pm to WestCoastAg
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but I thought the fact the big 12 didn't play a title game had NO effect on their playoff chances
meh, with the shite teams currently available for expansion, the percentage is most certainly not accurate.
As for the CCG with 10 teams, I don't care either way. If they do it, it won't be because of the 4% chance increase, but because of the money they could potentially get from it.
And LOL at them spending this type of money on a study like this, this conference is clueless. what a joke
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:16 pm to castorinho
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the percentage is most certainly not accurate.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:18 pm to castorinho
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And LOL at them spending this type of money on a study like this, this conference is clueless. what a joke
It's sad. Any douche bag on a message board could tell you the same thing this "analytics firm" discovered, although I'm sure they're happy to take Bowlsby's money to come to such a complex conclusion.
This post was edited on 5/6/16 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:23 pm to nicholastiger
So increasing the teams 20% only yields 11% better odds? That means the chances of each conference member would decrease.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:34 pm to WestCoastAg
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oh come on, you don't really think adding Tulane and BYU increases the conference's chance of making the playoffs that much
All I'm saying is the teams that are currently available wouldn't move the needle as far as credibility of the conference goes. The teams that are worth a shite already in a p5 conference aren't leaving their conference for the shite show in the big 12
Posted on 5/6/16 at 5:36 pm to castorinho
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All I'm saying is the teams that are currently available wouldn't move the needle as far as credibility of the conference goes. The teams that are worth a shite already in a p5 conference aren't leaving their conference for the shite show in the big 12
I don't really want the league to expand, but I could live with BYU and Cincy/Memphis.
BYU has to be in there since they are a semi-name brand.
Posted on 5/6/16 at 6:52 pm to nicholastiger
quote:I've said this for years here.
3) And in the most favorable scenario, where the conference expands to 12 teams, drops from nine league games to eight and adds a title game, the odds increase by 13 percentage points, for a growth of 21 percent. Note: That includes an assumption that the extra non-conference game is against a "quality opponent."
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