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Better supporting cast around LeBron, 2007 or 2015?
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:00 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:00 am
Better surrounding cast around LeBron NBA FINALS? 2007 or 2015?
2006-2007
6 Shannon Brown SG 6-4 205 November 29, 1985 R Michigan State University
1 Daniel Gibson PG 6-2 190 February 27, 1986 R University of Texas at Austin
90 Drew Gooden PF 6-10 230 September 24, 1981 4 University of Kansas
32 Larry Hughes SG 6-5 184 January 23, 1979 8 Saint Louis University
11 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 7-3 238 June 5, 1975 8
23 LeBron James SF 6-8 240 December 30, 1984 3
19 Damon Jones PG 6-3 185 August 25, 1976 8 University of Houston
27 Dwayne Jones PF 6-11 250 June 9, 1983 1 Saint Joseph's University
24 Donyell Marshall PF 6-9 218 May 18, 1973 12 University of Connecticut
14 Ira Newble SF 6-7 220 January 20, 1975 6 Miami University
3 Sasha Pavlovic SG 6-8 220 November 15, 1983 3
31 Scot Pollard C 6-11 265 February 12, 1975 9 University of Kansas
20 Eric Snow PG 6-3 190 April 24, 1973 11 Michigan State University
17 Anderson Varejao C 6-10 230 September 28, 1982 2
4 David Wesley SG 6-0 190 November 14, 1970 13 Baylor University
2014-2015
33 Brendan Haywood C 7-0 268 November 27, 1979 12 University of North Carolina
13 Tristan Thompson PF 6-8 225 March 13, 1991 3 University of Texas at Austin
31 Shawn Marion SF 6-7 220 May 7, 1978 15 University of Nevada, Las Vegas
23 LeBron James SF 6-8 240 December 30, 1984 11
18 Mike Miller SF 6-8 218 February 19, 1980 14 University of Florida
1 James Jones SF 6-8 225 October 4, 1980 11 University of Miami
4 Iman Shumpert SG 6-5 212 June 26, 1990 3 Georgia Institute of Technology
5 J.R. Smith SG 6-6 220 September 9, 1985 10
20 Timofey Mozgov C 7-1 250 July 16, 1986 4
8 Matthew Dellavedova SG 6-4 200 September 8, 1990 1 Saint Mary's College of California
12 Joe Harris SG 6-6 225 September 7, 1991 R University of Virginia
3 Kendrick Perkins C 6-10 280 November 10, 1984 11
Very impressive for LeBron to go to his 1st NBA finals after being in the league only 3 years? But had no one around him that was of any help....now in his 11th season back at it but doing it like a man possessed! Still not much around him.
2006-2007
6 Shannon Brown SG 6-4 205 November 29, 1985 R Michigan State University
1 Daniel Gibson PG 6-2 190 February 27, 1986 R University of Texas at Austin
90 Drew Gooden PF 6-10 230 September 24, 1981 4 University of Kansas
32 Larry Hughes SG 6-5 184 January 23, 1979 8 Saint Louis University
11 Zydrunas Ilgauskas C 7-3 238 June 5, 1975 8
23 LeBron James SF 6-8 240 December 30, 1984 3
19 Damon Jones PG 6-3 185 August 25, 1976 8 University of Houston
27 Dwayne Jones PF 6-11 250 June 9, 1983 1 Saint Joseph's University
24 Donyell Marshall PF 6-9 218 May 18, 1973 12 University of Connecticut
14 Ira Newble SF 6-7 220 January 20, 1975 6 Miami University
3 Sasha Pavlovic SG 6-8 220 November 15, 1983 3
31 Scot Pollard C 6-11 265 February 12, 1975 9 University of Kansas
20 Eric Snow PG 6-3 190 April 24, 1973 11 Michigan State University
17 Anderson Varejao C 6-10 230 September 28, 1982 2
4 David Wesley SG 6-0 190 November 14, 1970 13 Baylor University
2014-2015
33 Brendan Haywood C 7-0 268 November 27, 1979 12 University of North Carolina
13 Tristan Thompson PF 6-8 225 March 13, 1991 3 University of Texas at Austin
31 Shawn Marion SF 6-7 220 May 7, 1978 15 University of Nevada, Las Vegas
23 LeBron James SF 6-8 240 December 30, 1984 11
18 Mike Miller SF 6-8 218 February 19, 1980 14 University of Florida
1 James Jones SF 6-8 225 October 4, 1980 11 University of Miami
4 Iman Shumpert SG 6-5 212 June 26, 1990 3 Georgia Institute of Technology
5 J.R. Smith SG 6-6 220 September 9, 1985 10
20 Timofey Mozgov C 7-1 250 July 16, 1986 4
8 Matthew Dellavedova SG 6-4 200 September 8, 1990 1 Saint Mary's College of California
12 Joe Harris SG 6-6 225 September 7, 1991 R University of Virginia
3 Kendrick Perkins C 6-10 280 November 10, 1984 11
Very impressive for LeBron to go to his 1st NBA finals after being in the league only 3 years? But had no one around him that was of any help....now in his 11th season back at it but doing it like a man possessed! Still not much around him.
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:01 am to longhorn22
2007
ETA:
Because of this from another thread, which is just outrageous:
ETA:
Because of this from another thread, which is just outrageous:
quote:
Per LINK , Cleveland's O in the 22 minutes LBJ hasn't played in Finals: 18.2 FG%, 00.0 3pt%, 54.6 pts/100 poss, -39.2 net.
— Dan McCarney (@danmccarneySAEN) June 15, 2015
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:05 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:02 am to TheCaterpillar
they are both probably the 2 worst supporting cast ever for nba finals
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:02 am to longhorn22
2015 cast is much better in my opinion. I still can't believe he took that 2007 group to the Finals.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:02 am to oleyeller
quote:
they are both probably the 2 worst supporting cast ever for nba finals
Wouldn't Iverson's teammates have to be in the running as well?
Dikembe Mutombo
Matt Geiger
Todd MacCulloch
Tyrone Hill
George Lynch
Jumaine Jones
Roshown McLeod
Allen Iverson
Raja Bell
Rodney Buford
Kevin Ollie
Eric Snow
Aaron Mckie
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:04 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:03 am to oleyeller
funny, this cast has saved lebron's arse and has balled out a few games, zero credit.
they lose a few and they are horrible.
they lose a few and they are horrible.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:04 am to longhorn22
quote:
6 Shannon Brown SG 6-4 205 November 29, 1985 R Michigan State University
Funny, Shannon Brown never was really involved in that Cavs team at all, yet when he teamed up with Kobe he was a beast and ended up getting a pretty big contract afterward...
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:04 am to oleyeller
Iverson's Sixers were worse.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:05 am to Chad504boy
quote:
funny, this cast has saved lebron's arse and has balled out a few games, zero credit.
Meh - over the walking wounded and dysfunctional Bulls and then the walking wounded and wide-eyed Hawks. The East was just horrible this year.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:05 am to TheCaterpillar
This roster is eons better than that 2007 roster.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:06 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:
Iverson's Sixers were worse.
For some reason, when I looked up that roster, the thing that jumped out at me was Marv Albert saying "Raja Bell.... FOR...... THREEEEEE! YESS!"
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:06 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:
This roster is eons better than that 2007 roster.
Eons better? Are you kidding?
This supporting cast isn't eons better than any supporting cast in NBA history, much less NBA finals history.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:08 am to TheCaterpillar
I don't think you're giving enough thought to just how awful that 07 group was.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:10 am to longhorn22
I'd take the 2007 group. Best ability is availability.
This year's Lebron with the 2007 crew could beat these Warriors. Still don't beat the Spurs.
What games did this current crew bail out Lebron?
This year's Lebron with the 2007 crew could beat these Warriors. Still don't beat the Spurs.
quote:
funny, this cast has saved lebron's arse and has balled out a few games, zero credit
What games did this current crew bail out Lebron?
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:11 am to longhorn22
Wasn't that the year that Boobie Gibson went frickin insane from the 3 point line in the playoffs? I swear he couldn't miss for a while until getting torn a new one in the finals
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:12 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:
I don't think you're giving enough thought to just how awful that 07 group was.
They had 10 players average double digit minutes. This team has 7, with Mike Miller being 8th with 7 MPG.
The stats are very comparable for the supporting players against a better Spurs team, but with more players getting more minutes.
ETA:
07 - Drew Gooden - 13/8
15 - Mosgov - 13/7
07 - Gibson 11/2
15 - Delly 8/2
07 - Ilgauskas 8/10
15 - Tristan Thompson 9/13
07 - Varejao 8/5
15 - Shumpart 6/4
07 - Pavlivic 10/3
15 - JR Smith 10/4
But then on top of that, 2007 had Larry Hughes, Damon Jones, Donyell Marshall, and Eric Snow all getting average of 15 minutes. 2015 has nothing past what is listed besides James Jones with 17 MPG.
This post was edited on 6/16/15 at 9:29 am
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:15 am to Goldrush25
quote:
This year's Lebron with the 2007 crew could beat these Warriors.
ehhhhh
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:15 am to SirWinston
This current finals cast isn't the same roster that carried this team into the playoffs and throughout season. They did have K Love and Kyrie Irving >>> 2007 Roster.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:16 am to Chad504boy
quote:
funny, this cast has saved lebron's arse and has balled out a few games, zero credit.
they lose a few and they are horrible.
when has this cast saved his arse? lol.. he is playing with a bunch of extras nobody wanted.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 9:16 am to wildtigercat93
quote:
Wasn't that the year that Boobie Gibson went frickin insane from the 3 point line in the playoffs? I swear he couldn't miss for a while until getting torn a new one in the finals
Pistons series.
And it looks like that Larry Hughes injury set that team back when they needed that extra offensive gear for the Spurs.
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