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re: Ben Simmons rookie year

Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:38 pm to
Who will have a higher PER?
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:42 pm to
Joel got that...
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:44 pm to
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I'm actually gonna say 20/8/7.

as a rookie? the point numbers won't be quite that high. i can see rebounds for sure. assists around 6 maybe.
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278321 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:51 pm to
20/8/7 has happened 15x & only done by 7 players.

Wilt
Jordan
Lebron
Bird
Oscar
Grant Hill
Havlicek

I love Simmons but pump the brakes
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:53 pm to
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The same way you can't assume he sucks as a shooter when he didn't have to.


Through 25 games this year 35 of his 300 FGAs were jump shots. He made 12. He was also 1/3 from 3.

It is a limited sample size for sure, but that's 34.4% on jumpers. Blake Griffin didn't shoot that well on jumpers until his 4th year in the league. He shot roughly 30% his rookie year.

The jump shot stuff is way overblown with Simmons. He got 19 points per game at LSU in the most anemic offense of all time despite having little to no jumper. He can only go up from there and he has still shown the ability to be an above average scorer. Who cares how he actually gets it done?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:54 pm to
Hey I'm with you. With enough practice & experience, shooting improves. If we sat here and listed all the bad shooters that developed a shot over time, we'd be here all day
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:58 pm to
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Hey I'm with you.


Yeah I know I'm just quantifying his jumper.

quote:

With enough practice & experience, shooting improves. If we sat here and listed all the bad shooters that developed a shot over time, we'd be here all day


Yep. Anthony Davis went from 34.6% on jumpers as a rookie to 42.7% in 2015 and 39.6% this past year, although he took way more 3s and it explains most of his dip.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:58 pm to
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20/8/7 has happened 15x & only done by 7 players.

Wilt
Jordan
Lebron
Bird
Oscar
Grant Hill
Havlicek



that would be a mighty nice team

Center Wilt
forwards LeBron Larry
guards MJ and Havlicek

Oscar MJ Havlicek all swing 2 and 3
Hill rotates into both forward slots
LeBron can spell Wilt if he ever really needs two minutes.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:00 pm to
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He'll continue to improve on his weaknesses and become a more rounded player.


probably/maybe

some people never figure it out. if he could do a layup like a normal person I would have more reason to think he can learn.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84784 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:03 pm to
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if he could do a layup like a normal person I would have more reason to think he can learn.




He's efficient, but he uses his right hand like 80% of the time, which is crazy for a lefty.
Posted by PhiTiger1764
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:15 pm to
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The same way you can't assume he sucks as a shooter when he didn't have to.

Maybe if he could shoot, he would have. And the team may have been better than marginally invitable to the NIT.

Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:44 pm to
Some solid projections in here


15.8/8.1/8.1 currently.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

Ben Simmons


Next Magic Johnson
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:57 pm to
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This dude is going disappoint a lot of people on this board


Posted by GoldenBoy
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:58 pm to
Sup?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278321 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:03 am to
I have some great Simmons content book marked for a rainy day
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