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re: ASU to play Div1 hockey

Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:19 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:19 pm to
ASU seems like the coolest college on earth. The girls were so slutty it was unreal - walking around in these jean shorts that showed off half of their tanned arse cheeks. Jeebus - I am going to send my son there f'sho.
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:21 pm to
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But there are tons of women that have benefited from title IX and it's protections that they never would have been able to receive.


Yes, and I am glad they got that opportunity. There are also a ton of more deserving males who missed out on that same opportunity.

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It's got it's flaws like nearly every other law out there.


It sure does.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:22 pm to
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There are also a ton of more deserving males who missed out on that same opportunity.



They are more deserving than the women for what reason?

This is the crux of your point. You think that men should be given more opportunity because they are bigger stronger and faster.

Right?
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:25 pm to
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should be given more opportunity because they are bigger stronger and faster.


You may not think that we understand collegiate sports, but you not understanding the above shows that you dont understand the concept of sports.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:25 pm to
What don't I understand?
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:26 pm to
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You think that men should be given more opportunity because they are bigger stronger and faster.


Not at all. I think in order to keep the true spirit of competitiveness there cant be such large gaps in talent. That can vary from the different sports and different sexes.

This means that sometimes suzy or johnny who love the sport oh so much just arent good enough. And that is ok. They shouldnt be given an opportunity because its there, but instead because they earned it.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:29 pm to
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What don't I understand?



That at the heart of sports, bigger/stronger/faster people should be given more opportunities.

Just like, in the medical/engineering fields, smarter people should be given more opportunities.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:33 pm to
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I think in order to keep the true spirit of competitiveness there cant be such large gaps in talent


I think the main issue with the talent gap is exacerbated because of women's college basketball.

As you said earlier, chalk usually wins in the NCAA which is very true. The issue is that many girls would rather go to UCONN, Tennessee, Duke, UNC, etc. and ride the bench rather than try and be a star at a lower level school. Those teams are extremely deep and bring in ALL the best talent.

There are still tons of competitive games in NCAA Womens ball. The majority are competative. I think you're selling women's sports short.

There are sports that many mens teams perennially dominate as well. College Hockey and Wrestling come to mind.

Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:34 pm to
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That at the heart of sports, bigger/stronger/faster people should be given more opportunities.


You're confusing professional sports with collegiate, and interscholastic sports.


And that's what I was talking about earlier. You still don't understand.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:38 pm to
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You're confusing professional sports with collegiate, and interscholastic sports.



No. You think LSU recruits players who will get the most out their education? Or do you think they recruit players who are bigger/stronger/faster than everyone else? I think you live inside a high school counselor pamphlet or something.
Posted by KosmoCramer
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:39 pm to
Of course they do.

What the point I was trying to make was you feel that since men are bigger strong and faster than women, that they should get more opportunities than their comparatively advanced female counterparts.

Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22482 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:42 pm to
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that they should get more opportunities


I dont think i ever said that



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than their comparatively advanced female counterparts.


I think i see what youre trying to say here but im not sure how you can say it like its an indisputable fact.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:45 pm to
If you lay all the men that play sports out on a timeline based on ability (not possible), the top X% will get to play in college on some level in some sport.


That same X% of women should get the chance to play college sports.

They are better than the average female by the same percentage that the men are.





I don't think I'm saying my point correctly as I type this.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:51 pm to
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That same X% of women should get the chance to play college sports.


Yes, that is what Title IX says. People disagree with this.

I dont think the amount of opportunities that women get should have thing to do with the amount men get.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76547 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:52 pm to
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I dont think the amount of opportunities that women get should have thing to do with the amount men get.


They all get the same federal funding, none of these lower tier sports make money.

That's the issue.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:12 pm to
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I find it funny when people discuss schools such as Miami, USC, SLU, TU, etc and they swear they are public schools.


I knew all those schools were private. The one that blew me away was Syracuse. Had no idea they were a private school until recently.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:13 pm to
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The girls were so slutty it was unreal - walking around in these jean shorts that showed off half of their tanned arse cheeks. Jeebus - I am going to send my son there f'sho.


Will you send your daughter there too?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:16 pm to
I believe it was a Wesleyan college originally.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:09 pm to
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My main issue is that Title IX more often than not, limits the creation of men's programs rather than fosters the creation of womens. And that is unfortunate.



Not a single men's sport that is self sustaining, has been cut due to Title IX. The reason they get cut is because the demand isn't there.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22482 posts
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:14 pm to
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Not a single men's sport that is self sustaining, has been cut due to Title IX. The reason they get cut is because the demand isn't there.


Yet womens sports without demand remain because they are needed to comply with Title IX. I feel like you helped my argument.
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