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re: Astros sale to include $70M for move to American League

Posted on 11/16/11 at 9:26 pm to
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 11/16/11 at 9:26 pm to
Yeah, isn't it funny how Tampa, with Gerry Hunsicker, and Philly, without Ed Wade both make the post season every year now. I liked Drayton as an owner until he ran off Hunsicker.
Posted by tmoney
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
1264 posts
Posted on 11/16/11 at 9:55 pm to
Astros to the AL? feel like i have been punched in the stomach! I loved going to H Town back in the dome now MM....

THIS SUCKS!!!!! :angry:
Posted by tuan85lsu
ATX
Member since Apr 2006
7958 posts
Posted on 11/16/11 at 11:00 pm to
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It will be 15 years before the Astros are a serious contender again.


I disagree. When you continually draft high in the draft and get back quality prospects for your vets that you trade away you will contend eventually. Case in point, The Rays and Rangers. This is also the reason I think the Royals will compete for their division title next year and I think the Nationals are not too far off. Pittsburgh is their own enigma, I have no idea what the hell they are doing over there.
Posted by TxHillsTiger
Austin
Member since Feb 2009
839 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 9:32 am to
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you will contend eventually. Case in point, The Rays and Rangers.
How long has it taken for the Rays and Rangers to get to where they are? When was the last time the Royals were contenders?

Let me be clear - I'm not talking about World Series winners. I just want a solid product on the field that makes games fun. I especially want to watch the Astros play meaningful games in August and September. With the Astros in the NL, they will be in the Wild Card hunt within 3 years. When they go to the AL, it will take a decade to get in the Wild Card hunt.

Viewership, Fanbase, profitability will all decline. Less money, less ability to consistently compete. By the time your drafted 'stars' become stars - they will be either be priced out of the team's budget, or Free Agents. It will take years to get a steady stream of young affordable talent like the Rays and Rangers have built. This will not be a 2 or 3 year fix now.
This post was edited on 11/17/11 at 9:33 am
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 10:38 am to
Local attorney says Astros’ move to AL violates lease agreement
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Citing provisions from a 2000 agreement that expires at the end of 2029, Yankowsky said the terms spell out that the home team — the Astros — be a National League franchise.

Article 1, Section 1.1 of the lease states that all capitalized terms in the lease have meanings assigned in a glossary of defined terms. One of the key provisions, Yankowsky said, comes in Article 5, Section 5.1 defining “Permitted Uses” of Minute Maid as including “exhibition, presentation and broadcasting of Baseball Home Games and activities related thereto.”

The Glossary of Defined Terms classifies “Baseball Home Games” as “any major league baseball game in which the Team as the host Team for its opponent (i.e. the Team takes the field in the first half of each inning and bats in the last half of each inning of such baseball game).” Team, as defined by the Glossary, is “the major league baseball team owned by the tenant pursuant to the rights granted to it as a National League franchise under the Franchise, currently named the Houston Astros Baseball Club.” Franchise, as defined in the lease, is “the Team issued by the National League.”

“In the simplest form, what this means, in my judgment, is come opening day of 2013, the Sports Authority can refuse to let them play because it’s not a permitted use of the stadium,” Yankowsky said. “They can quite simply lock the doors and say, ‘No, it’s not a permitted use.’ The play of Major League Baseball games, by definition, are limited to games in which a National League team is the home team.”

I have a new hero, and he's a lawyer?!?
Posted by daboman of Aggieland
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1330 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:48 am to
It's done.
Jim Crane officially approved as Astros’ new owner; Astros moving to American League
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As part of the deal, Crane was required to give baseball the power to move the Astros to the American League West. That move will happen in 2013, and at some point soon, commissioner Bud Selig said there will be an additional wild card team in each league. The expanded playoffs could come as soon as the 2012 season, Selig said.

RIP Astros
1962-2012

frick YOU BUD SELIG!
frick YOU JIM CRANE!
frick YOU DRAYTON MCLANE!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59098 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:55 am to
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frick YOU BUD SELIG!
frick YOU JIM CRANE!
frick YOU DRAYTON MCLANE!


Yup!
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61146 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 11:55 am to
There will still be plenty of NL games, just not as many, they said the scheduling will be more like the NBA where its not as focused on divisional games. Personally, I have been an Astros fan my whole life, and I had many years of season tickets at the Astrodome. The franchise just needs a fresh new start, and to me the American League can be the beginning of that start. They are still playing baseball last I checked. McLane ran his course and he sucked, they need to fire Ed Wade that SOB too, worst hire in baseball.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 12:00 pm to
Of all the dumb things in sports, NL fans obsession with the DH rule might be the dumbest. Oh no, our .150 hitting pitcher only has to pitch now, where's the strategy in that?!?!
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59098 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 12:02 pm to
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They have literally no tradition of any kind and Washington is a longtime American League city.


Boom, exactly!

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The Astros have been a serious contender one time in their entire existence, brah.


bullshite. They've been to the WS once, but have been contenders several times. Doinking in the playoffs =/= not contending.

The 1980 and 86 NLCS are 2 of the most memorable because they were so close.

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who cares if they move?


most Astros fans, you know the fricking customers.

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more chances to see the Yanks & Red Sox play in Houston...


whoppeee fricking doo? Why is that a selling point? Why should an Astros fan who has followed the NL forever give a flying frick about seeing the Yankees and Red Sox more often? Now I don't get to see the Cubs, Cards, Dodgers, Braves etc. Outside of going to YS or FP, why should i care about seeing either team anyway? frick, if I want to see those teams, i can just turn on ESPN on any day in baseball season that ends in the letter Y and they will be on, often playing each other? But maybe we can get to hear Sweet Caroline at MMP aka Baseball Factory of Sadness, again. That will be a treat!
Posted by droman225
HTown by way of BR
Member since Aug 2011
13383 posts
Posted on 11/17/11 at 12:07 pm to
Yankees and red sox games means MMP will be 80% full of visiting fans. No thanks
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