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re: As Baylor plugs in QBs, RGIII was over rated.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:19 am to UnAnon
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:19 am to UnAnon
RGIII was rookie of tge year because he is an incredible talent. Injuries have killed his career, but he also have been used terribly. As others have said, he throws an amazing deep ball. A piss poor offensive line has made it rare for him to have the time needed to go deep.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:21 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:Where did I say he wasn't good his rookie season?
Trying to argue he wasn't good in college or his rookie year is revisionist history at it's finest
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:23 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
the problem with his rookie year is that shanny developed the safest, simplest passing structure that relied heavily on his mobility
it was a really good rookie year and i'm not claiming otherwise. what i'm saying is that it was a lost year of actual NFL QB development and relying on that offense basically just let teams tee off his rookie year and then they had the offense shut down by year 2
it was a really good rookie year and i'm not claiming otherwise. what i'm saying is that it was a lost year of actual NFL QB development and relying on that offense basically just let teams tee off his rookie year and then they had the offense shut down by year 2
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:23 am to ReauxlTide222
Or fantastic his rookie year for that matter. What rookie QBs have had better seasons over the last 20-25 years?
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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it was a really good rookie year and i'm not claiming otherwise. what i'm saying is that it was a lost year of actual NFL QB development and relying on that offense basically just let teams tee off his rookie year and then they had the offense shut down by year 2
That's a fair assessment. I think the team around him has steadily gotten worse too and he hasn't been helped by the injuries, but you could argue if he been developed more as a pocket passer his rookie year the injuries wouldn't have impacted him as much
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:27 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Am I on crack for thinking this? I'm not trying to hate on a guy who threw for 3000 yards in the National Football League. But what they had him doing was some cookie cutter level quarterbacking nonsense. Maybe that was too harsh. But raving about his rookie season at this point is foolish at best.
the problem with his rookie year is that shanny developed the safest, simplest passing structure that relied heavily on his mobility
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:28 am to ReauxlTide222
Well, to be fair, y'all werent exactly spot on. He did win rookie of the year and led a shite organization to the playoffs before getting hurt
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 8:28 am
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:28 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
every time a new, young running QB emerges NFL DCs, for whatever reason, act like they've never seen it before during the season
i mean remember that stretch when kap was frickING teams up? the media was on his pain train the same as RG3
NFL offenses seem a lot more adaptable and maleable and they create these "new" offenses to ride that running QB ignorance
and then the next year happens, as always
i mean remember that stretch when kap was frickING teams up? the media was on his pain train the same as RG3
NFL offenses seem a lot more adaptable and maleable and they create these "new" offenses to ride that running QB ignorance
and then the next year happens, as always
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Do yall assume RG3 is a running QB because he is black? Serious non race baiting question.
The dude is a gunslinger that throws an amazing deep ball. He ran becacause he could but he is far from a running QB. With a non-fricktard organization and half way decent line he would still be good
The dude is a gunslinger that throws an amazing deep ball. He ran becacause he could but he is far from a running QB. With a non-fricktard organization and half way decent line he would still be good
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:33 am to SlowFlowPro
RG3 and Kaep and their offenses both ran a lot of read option and it seemed like that was the first time it became big in the NFL. For some reason teams couldn't stop it that first year. RG3's QB skills though as far as mechanics, arm strength, etc>>>>Kaepernick's IMO.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:34 am to lsupride87
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Do yall assume RG3 is a running QB because he is black? Serious non race baiting question.
ignoring the fact that shanny had him constantly moving outside the pocket with run-pass options all the time his rookie year (which is how they isolated open WRs to simplify the offense to tax max advantage that year), he did run for 800+ yards in that rookie year
but yeah it's just because he's black
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:37 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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RG3's QB skills though as far as mechanics, arm strength, etc>>>>Kaepernick's IMO.
i think they both have laser cannons but i was using kap as a "EVEN KAP WAS DOING IT AND HE frickING SUCKS"
and vince did some spread option shite his rookie year way back in 2006 (and he fricked teams up running, too)
the best way to use the QB (and there are issues like we see this year) is how wilson moves/runs on the seahawks, as a supplement
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:58 am to UnAnon
He wasn't overrated. He just has a frail body for a football player. If y'all had listened to any A&M fans we were always saying the big risk w/him would be injuries b/c he got hurt several times in college. (and those injuries were NOT b/c he was taking off and running, he just never held up well when he got popped)
This post was edited on 10/9/15 at 8:59 am
Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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i think they both have laser cannons but i was using kap as a "EVEN KAP WAS DOING IT AND HE frickING SUCKS"
and vince did some spread option shite his rookie year way back in 2006 (and he fricked teams up running, too)
the best way to use the QB (and there are issues like we see this year) is how wilson moves/runs on the seahawks, as a supplement
Randall Cunningham? Steve Young? Shame they only had those rookie seasons to look back on.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 9:05 am to UnAnon
The best argument against RGIII was the Tech game. They went on a scoring frenzy after half and the offense ran better, when he went out with a concussion. People criticized others who said he was as great as people made him out to be.
After that game I changed my mind as him being the front runner. I have no issue with him winning it though.
After that game I changed my mind as him being the front runner. I have no issue with him winning it though.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 9:06 am to DelU249
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Honey badger was the real heisman winner that year
Posted on 10/9/15 at 10:51 am to SlowFlowPro
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NFL offenses seem a lot more adaptable and maleable and they create these "new" offenses to ride that running QB ignorance
and then the next year happens, as always
Tyrod Taylor is currently enjoying his year of running wild.
Posted on 10/9/15 at 11:04 am to BayouBengals03
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If y'all had listened to any A&M fans
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