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re: Arizona and Arizona State football
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:39 pm to AZBayouBengal07
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:39 pm to AZBayouBengal07
Tucson is a weird place. And kind of a dump.
ASU will continue to trend upwards. It's really on the forefront of a lot of things as it pertains to public institutions. Athletics just hasn't been a focus. But that is changing.
ASU will continue to trend upwards. It's really on the forefront of a lot of things as it pertains to public institutions. Athletics just hasn't been a focus. But that is changing.
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Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:52 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Fanbase
At ASU it's the fan base. The university has 80 thousand students but struggles to fill it's 72-thousand seat stadium for any game. Last year's game against Notre Dame did not sell out.
Recruits notice things like that.
It's gotten so bad that they are now in the process of reducing the size of the stadium to somewhere in the neighborhood of 55 K.
When you can't get fans to come to the game you aren't making money. When you aren't making money you aren't spending it to chase recruits or upgrade your facilities.
It's an endless cycle.
ASU will never be a powerhouse until it invests serious money into it's football program.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:12 pm to saint amant steve
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Within a 1,000 miles of Los Angeles
WTF? Within 1,000 miles of Denver you have almost the whole country.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:43 pm to asurob1
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At ASU it's the fan base.
Lots of Missouri HS kids go to ASU for undergrad.
I think there is a ton of private school kids there that couldn't get into their target and fall back on ASU and UA as a fun safety school. That may have an impact on student participation overall.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 2:52 pm to asurob1
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The university has 80 thousand students but struggles to fill it's 72-thousand seat stadium for any game. Last year's game against Notre Dame did not sell out.
no it doesnt.
you'd have to combine all of their campuses, online students, and graduate students to get over 80k.
the main campus has 50k.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 3:36 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Oregon does well with 4 million people and 2% black. Az. State has built in recruiting advantages over Oregon.
And then you put Oregon politics on top of the low population versus Arizona politics on top of the low population and you have your answer.
Plus, Oregon and Washington are the closest thing the Pac 10 has to a SEC fanbase in terms of enthusiasm and prioritizing college football.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:38 pm to saint amant steve
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This may come off as slightly racist, but it shouldn't if you have any sort of common sense, but the lack of elite success also might have to do with population demographics.
Blacks make up only 5% of Arizona's total population. By comparison, look how the majority of the states in the South stack up:
Alabama 26.8%
Arkansas 16.1%
Florida 17%
Georgia 31.5%
Louisiana 32.8%
Mississippi 37.6%
Missouri 12.5%
North Carolina 22.6%
South Carolina 28.8%
Tennessee 17.4%
Texas 12.6%
Just saying...
I grew up out here and before HS I went to school with exactly 2 black kids and one went to the NBA and one went to the NFL, Mike Bibby and Mike Brown.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 12:42 pm to AZBayouBengal07
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While I'm sure the University of Arizona has plenty of attractive women as most all colleges do, it is certainly not renown in any way for having exceptional Coed's.
I hate that school with a passion but their chicks are unreal
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Tucson is not a place anyone of sound mind and body chooses to go.
Agreed
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:00 pm to lsu480
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I hate that school with a passion but their chicks are unreal
Bear down!
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:12 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Oregon does well with 4 million people and 2% black
I think it's fair to say the situations at Oregon and Oklahoma State are not the norm.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:28 pm to asurob1
About half those students are at the three other satellite campuses or are online students. We just need to win plain and simple. When the stadium fills up, it rivals any other stadium's atmosphere (says Pete Carroll who has been to many historic stadiums). Maybe not with the reduction though... #!?# our renovation looked cool until the more recent renderings... Yawn. I think ASU will finally be making strides this upcoming year to stay in that 9-13 win category. Hope Graham becomes Frank Kush~
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:32 pm to forksup
That stadium should've been demolished after the 96 Fiesta Bowl.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:34 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Arizona State has had some success (much more so than Arizona), but it still pales in comparison to USC, Washington, UCLA and now Oregon and probably Stanford.
What's holding these two programs back from really turning to that next level
That's like asking why ole miss or MSU can't really get to the next level even though bama/auburn/lsu/uga/uf/ut are in their same league.
ASU or UA won't ever be elite, top notch football programs for any prolonged period of time. That's just not who they are.
Posted on 4/10/15 at 3:54 pm to Korin
There were thoughts to demolish it, but they turned to renovating it instead. The recent renderings are... Unflattering to say the least. I wish they had just played at UoP stadium for a year or two and just built an entirely new stadium in between the buttes. Now the stadium is going to look like UofA's POS stadium.
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