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Are kevin love and kyrie superstars?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:56 pm
Help settle a debate with a friend
Also, what constitutes someone being a superstar? Winning? Popularity? Stats?
Also, what constitutes someone being a superstar? Winning? Popularity? Stats?
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 3:58 pm
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Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:57 pm to Nonetheless
I think both are arguably superstars, but Love much moreso than Irving.
They both play solid ball when dressed as old dudes though.
They both play solid ball when dressed as old dudes though.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 3:58 pm to Nonetheless
no
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:01 pm to Nonetheless
no
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:02 pm to Nonetheless
To me a superstar is somebody with the athletic talent but they transcend that talent and enter the main stream media. This can be done through commercials, charity, acting, etc.
Love isn't there. Kyrie is maybe trending there.
Love isn't there. Kyrie is maybe trending there.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:04 pm to Nonetheless
NO
Popularity/recognition is what makes a superstar.
Popularity/recognition is what makes a superstar.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:05 pm to SprintFun
Very few "Superstars" to me.
Lebron and KD at their current level and other guys like Kobe/Duncan that have Superstar legacies.
Lebron and KD at their current level and other guys like Kobe/Duncan that have Superstar legacies.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:05 pm to Nonetheless
I'm not sure either of them are top 5 at their respective positions
So no, they're not superstars
So no, they're not superstars
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:07 pm to Nonetheless
quote:
kevin love
Yes
quote:
kyrie
No
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:08 pm to Nonetheless
Love, yes. Irving, no.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:08 pm to danman6336
Superstar doesn't have much to do with positional ranking to me.
It's more about going to somebody who knows nothing about sports on the street and saying do you know who______ is and them knowing them.
Yea being good is a component, but being top 10 is probably good enough
It's more about going to somebody who knows nothing about sports on the street and saying do you know who______ is and them knowing them.
Yea being good is a component, but being top 10 is probably good enough
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:09 pm to Nonetheless
No
Id say there are only 4-5 "superstars" in the league
Id say there are only 4-5 "superstars" in the league
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:09 pm to danman6336
quote:
I'm not sure either of them are top 5 at their respective positions
So no, they're not superstars
That's your criteria for superstar?
That's a pretty high bar IMO.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:10 pm to Nonetheless
quote:
kevin love
Offensive beast early in his career, but not an all-around player and doesn't current rank among Top 50 in PER in the NBA (54th). Obviously PER is not be-all-end-all, but it's kind of revealing.
quote:
kyrie
Barely cracks the Top 50 in PER.
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:10 pm to Boomshockalocka
Superstars today in the NBA
Melo
Wade
Lebron
Kobe
Howard
Harden
Durant
Westbrook
Rose
Duncan
I'm sure I'm missing one but that's about it imo.
Melo
Wade
Lebron
Kobe
Howard
Harden
Durant
Westbrook
Rose
Duncan
I'm sure I'm missing one but that's about it imo.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:10 pm to CocomoLSU
quote:
That's a pretty high bar IMO
this seems to be just a silly semantics argument
but a superstar is > than an all-star, yes?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Superstars today in the NBA
Melo
Wade
Lebron
Kobe
Howard
Harden
Durant
Westbrook
Rose
Duncan
quote:
I'm sure I'm missing one but that's about it imo.
Anthony Davis?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:11 pm to rocket31
LBJ
KD
Kobe
Duncan?
Dwight?
Blake?
Dirk?
DWade?
I'm sure I left off some big names, but off the top of my head that's what I can think of.
ETA: Melo and D Rose, but that's just as much due to off the court drama
KD
Kobe
Duncan?
Dwight?
Blake?
Dirk?
DWade?
I'm sure I left off some big names, but off the top of my head that's what I can think of.
ETA: Melo and D Rose, but that's just as much due to off the court drama
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:11 pm to SprintFun
quote:
It's more about going to somebody who knows nothing about sports on the street and saying do you know who______ is and them knowing them
So is Dirk Nowitzki a superstar?
Posted on 1/7/15 at 4:11 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
Superstars today in the NBA
Melo
Wade
Lebron
Kobe
Howard
Harden
Durant
Westbrook
Rose
Duncan
I'm sure I'm missing one but that's about it imo.
You forgot Lillard.
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