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re: Are comebacks overrated for individual legacies?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:51 am to shel311
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:51 am to shel311
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Had he played a decent 1st half and kept the score close, so the comeback was never needed, how is that somehow less impressive or less of an accomplishment than being stinky in the 1st half but then leading the epic 25 point comeback?
It's not. Unfortunately most sports fans just buy into lame, meaningless media cliches and don't use their brains
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:52 am to slackster
I like guys who don't need big comebacks
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:54 am to slackster
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Matt Ryan has as many or more GW drives than 16 HOFers, including Montana and Unitas.
This stat is dumb. It means he has been behind a lot. That means he has more comeback wins that Brady has had games in which they trailed in the further quarter the past three years combined.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:58 am to MusclesofBrussels
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It's not. Unfortunately most sports fans just buy into lame, meaningless media cliches and don't use their brains
It's kind of the same thing for saying a guy can't be GOAT because he "lost" Superbowls or Finals, when another guy didn't. Nevermind the earlier playoff exits or acting like losing in an earlier round trumps losing the championship game. I also think it's important to give a guy credit for leading his team to playoff bye's, even if at the end of his career he has less overall playoff wins, but secured 1st round byes several times.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:05 pm to GenesChin
quote:Many QBs(Brady certainly included) don't play THAT bad when being pressured.
Don't know many QBs who play well when they are drilled mid throw on 3 step drops.
It would make zero sense to try to not say Brady was a large reason they were down 28-3. He was awful up to that point.
Another thing, a lot of his hits and sacks(not all, a lot) came after he held the ball for a looooooong time.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:06 pm to Michael J Cocks
quote:Yea, that's absurd.
It's kind of the same thing for saying a guy can't be GOAT because he "lost" Superbowls or Finals
All else being equal, I'll take 1 SB win and 10 SB losses over 1 SB win and no other trips to the SB.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:11 pm to shel311
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He was awful up to that point.
He completed 60% of his passes and had close to 200 yards in the first half. He made one mistake (the pick six). Otherwise he had a pretty decent first half.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:14 pm to slackster
Because if you've ever played sports you know what pressure can do to otherwise good or even great players. Some fold others thrive. It's the ones who thrive that end up being remembered forever.
On the professional level the difference in skills is minute. You're never going to have a player or team that just destroys everybody. Brady and the Pats are the closest thing to that. Sometimes it's just that tiny psychological advantage that separates a Brady from a Matt Ryan.
On the professional level the difference in skills is minute. You're never going to have a player or team that just destroys everybody. Brady and the Pats are the closest thing to that. Sometimes it's just that tiny psychological advantage that separates a Brady from a Matt Ryan.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:24 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Fair point.
He completed 60% of his passes and had close to 200 yards in the first half. He made one mistake (the pick six). Otherwise he had a pretty decent first half.
Before the final drive for the FG, they were down 21-0 and Brady was(roughly, I looked it up manually) 11 of 18 for 133 yards, 2 sacks, and 1 pick 6.
That's not good, not good at all.
My only point, much like saying Matt Ryan shared in the blame for blowing the lead, Brady certainly shared in the blame for going down so big.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:26 pm to rintintin
quote:Unless you played professionally, or some big time college hoops or football, you have no clue about this.
Because if you've ever played sports you know what pressure can do to otherwise good or even great players
I know I don't.
Playing in high school or that DII team doesn't help you in the least to decipher how elite pro athletes handle pressure.
quote:This sounds just more like experience and not really pressure.
On the professional level the difference in skills is minute. You're never going to have a player or team that just destroys everybody. Brady and the Pats are the closest thing to that. Sometimes it's just that tiny psychological advantage that separates a Brady from a Matt Ryan.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 2/6/17 at 12:31 pm to shel311
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Brady certainly shared in the blame for going down so big.
Yeah, he shares the blame, but you can't give him the majority of the blame. The Patriots were driving down the field to take the early lead when Blount fumbled it away on the 30-yard line. His offensive line was absolute dog shite during the first half. They struggled to pass block and they sure as hell couldn't block for the run to save their lives. Brady was still getting beat up pretty bad in the second half.
The worst thing Brady did in that game was the pick six. He shares the blame but so does everyone else.
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