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Are comebacks overrated for individual legacies?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:34 am
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:34 am
They're a treat for viewers, but are they really such a big deal? Why is coming back late any more important than jumping out to a big lead?
Peyton Manning has the most game winning drives in NFL history. Tom Brady just came back from being down 25 in the Superbowl. So what? Matt Ryan has as many or more GW drives than 16 HOFers, including Montana and Unitas.
Peyton Manning has the most game winning drives in NFL history. Tom Brady just came back from being down 25 in the Superbowl. So what? Matt Ryan has as many or more GW drives than 16 HOFers, including Montana and Unitas.
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Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:35 am to slackster
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Matt Ryan has as many or more GW drives than 16 HOFers, including Montana and Unitas.
Give him a ring then.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:35 am to slackster
Evaluating how guys perform in the highest pressure situations seems appropriate to me. 
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:35 am to slackster
Competition and circumstances matter.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:38 am to slackster
They aren't as overrated as championships.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:39 am to Bunk Moreland
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Evaluating how guys perform in the highest pressure situations seems appropriate to me.
You have to be tied or down to lead a game winning drive. Is Steve Young any less of a QB because he has half the GW drives of Matt Ryan?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:45 am to slackster
How many game winning drives/comebacks does Matt Ryan have in the playoffs and Super Bowl?
He had 57 seconds left last night to get to the Patriots 40 yard line to give Matt Bryant a chance. 57 seconds to get 45-50 yards. And they shite the bed.
Why the hell did they not throw it to their circus freak WR who caught everything all night?
He had 57 seconds left last night to get to the Patriots 40 yard line to give Matt Bryant a chance. 57 seconds to get 45-50 yards. And they shite the bed.
Why the hell did they not throw it to their circus freak WR who caught everything all night?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:50 am to Bunk Moreland
quote:It was fantastic watching the comeback, I'm honestly not knocking the actual comeback, but...
Evaluating how guys perform in the highest pressure situations seems appropriate to me.
One of the reasons why NE had to make a 25 point comeback was because Tom Brady played so poorly in the 1st half.
Had he played a decent 1st half and kept the score close, so the comeback was never needed, how is that somehow less impressive or less of an accomplishment than being stinky in the 1st half but then leading the epic 25 point comeback?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:23 am to slackster
Everyone focuses on the comeback and what the QB did and forgets about all of the other things that went into it. A large come back such last night have to have so many other things happen other than just Brady playing well for it to happen.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:26 am to Dizz
Not when you're down 25, need two 2-point conversions, and have to drive 96 yards or so.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:27 am to Dizz
quote:Like the defense holding ATL scores for the last (almost) half of the game.
Everyone focuses on the comeback and what the QB did and forgets about all of the other things that went into it. A large come back such last night have to have so many other things happen other than just Brady playing well for it to happen.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:29 am to Grandioso
quote:So because of that, you ignore everything else and give Brady all of the credit?
Not when you're down 25, need two 2-point conversions, and have to drive 96 yards or so.
1. They were down 25 in part because of Brady's stinky play and pick 6.
2. On the 1st 2pt conversion, Brady didn't touch the ball
3. On the 2nd one, he made a rather simple pass
That hardly seems like a reason to forget about everyone else and give Brady all of the credit...unless I'm entirely misreading your post.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:36 am to shel311
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One of the reasons why NE had to make a 25 point comeback was because Tom Brady played so poorly in the 1st half.
Had he played a decent 1st half and kept the score close, so the comeback was never needed, how is that somehow less impressive or less of an accomplishment than being stinky in the 1st half but then leading the epic 25 point comeback?
What game did you watch?
Brady threw a bad Pick 6. That's on him.
Other than that ... how exactly did he specifically play poorly? He played poor defense? He dropped perfectly thrown balls? He failed to block for himself?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:36 am to shel311
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So because of that, you ignore everything else and give Brady all of the credit?
He had a bad first half. It happens. Teams scheme well. He rebounded and ended up having a tremendous second half (arguably one of the best ever).
He threw for 466 yards and 2 touchdowns. You can focus on the pick 6 though. I'll focus on the 25 point comeback and the OT victory.
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 9:38 am
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:41 am to navy
quote:So he had 1 bad play in the 1st half, is that what you're saying and asking ME "what game did I watch?"
What game did you watch? Brady threw a bad Pick 6. That's on him. Other than that ... how exactly did he specifically play poorly?
Yikes.
quote:Yea, because all of his 1st half passes were perfectly thrown balls.
He dropped perfectly thrown balls?
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:42 am to Grandioso
quote:The problem is one poster said there's a lot of things that factor into a comeback, and you responded stating basically that none of them matter, all Brady. Read it, that's the only possible insinuation I could take from your response up above.
He had a bad first half. It happens. Teams scheme well. He rebounded and ended up having a tremendous second half (arguably one of the best ever). He threw for 466 yards and 2 touchdowns. You can focus on the pick 6 though. I'll focus on the 25 point comeback and the OT victory.
And that's simply wrong, no other way to put it.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:42 am to Grandioso
I get what your saying and I am not trying to take anything away from Brady. There are handful of plays in the second half that Brady had nothing to do with and decisions the Pats had nothing to do with that could have made the come back impossible.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:45 am to Dizz
quote:Like the entire other side of the ball. The Pats defense could have just kept giving up TDs in the 2nd half, and that would have been that. That's why it was silly for that poster to not recognize things like that.
I get what your saying and I am not trying to take anything away from Brady. There are handful of plays in the second half that Brady had nothing to do with and decisions the Pats had nothing to do with that could have made the come back impossible.
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:47 am to slackster
I kind of like to give props for both ways. I think I'd rather have a guy that puts his foot on the head of the snake and never lets him back up.... But I also like knowing that I have a guy that's never out of it and is capable of coming back from a slow or horrible start.
I also think we should talk about how many times a QB loses in his career after having a 2+ score lead heading into the 4th. IMHO I think not being able to put a team away after such a huge lead is the epitome of "choking."
I also think we should talk about how many times a QB loses in his career after having a 2+ score lead heading into the 4th. IMHO I think not being able to put a team away after such a huge lead is the epitome of "choking."
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 2/6/17 at 11:50 am to shel311
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was because Tom Brady played so poorly in the 1st half.
Don't know many QBs who play well when they are drilled mid throw on 3 step drops.
Shouldn't be surprising that there is a clear difference in production once the Falcons pass rush went MIA
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