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re: Andrew Wiggins is starting to become a player you just can't miss
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:42 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 1/18/15 at 2:42 pm to BayouBengals03
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This could go down as the worst personnel decision in NBA history. And I'm not kidding.
Bowie over Jordan
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:11 pm to Goldrush25
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but he'll likely end the year averaging 20/7/2
Through 39 games, he's currently averaging 15.2/4.3/1.8 so to get 20/7/2, he'll have to average 24.2/7.4/2.2 for the rest of the season. So it is highly unlikely that he will have a rookie season that will go down as an all time great, although he will more than likely be ROY.
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He's definitely light years ahead of where Love was his rookie year, and Wiggins only had 1 year of college ball
Love averaged 11.1/9.1/1 during his rookie season on a better Minnesota team (took about 4.5 fewer shots per game than Wiggins). Looking at efficiency metrics, Love's PER was 18.3 compared to Wiggins's 13.0. Love had a better offensive rating (112 to 100), defensive rating (109 to 114), and considerably higher wins share per 48 minutes (.124 to .021). Granted there are differences in talent levels on the two teams, but Wiggins's rookie year is not substantially better than Love's in any way.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:34 pm to buckeye_vol
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Love averaged 11.1/9.1/1 during his rookie season on a better Minnesota team (took about 4.5 fewer shots per game than Wiggins). Looking at efficiency metrics, Love's PER was 18.3 compared to Wiggins's 13.0. Love had a better offensive rating (112 to 100), defensive rating (109 to 114), and considerably higher wins share per 48 minutes (.124 to .021). Granted there are differences in talent levels on the two teams, but Wiggins's rookie year is not substantially better than Love's in any way.
You left out that one guy had 1 year of college ball.
In 3 years the comparisons won't even be close.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:42 pm to chalmetteowl
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the Cavs didn't screw up. you think they were gonna win the title with a rook next to LeBron?
They aren't going to sniff a title without him this year either.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:43 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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Yeah but mirotic is better
Tbf Mirotic has been pretty damn good too. Only real challenger to Wiggins for ROY.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:49 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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You think his CEILING is Paul George? Wiggins is gonna be better than Paul George in like a year.
At this point I'd say his floor is Paul George
Posted on 1/18/15 at 3:54 pm to buckeye_vol
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Love averaged 11.1/9.1/1 during his rookie season on a better Minnesota team (took about 4.5 fewer shots per game than Wiggins). Looking at efficiency metrics, Love's PER was 18.3 compared to Wiggins's 13.0. Love had a better offensive rating (112 to 100), defensive rating (109 to 114), and considerably higher wins share per 48 minutes (.124 to .021). Granted there are differences in talent levels on the two teams, but Wiggins's rookie year is not substantially better than Love's in any way.
Wiggins is only 19 still.
Kevin Love played his whole rookie season at age 20.
Since Christmas he is averaging
21pts
5rebs
2.7 ast
50% FG
45% 3pt
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:09 pm to Goldrush25
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You left out that one guy had 1 year of college ball.
In 3 years the comparisons won't even be close
Both players only played one year in college. Although, Love's birthday is about 6 months earlier than Wiggins's (Early September for Love; late February for Wiggins).
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:11 pm to Lester Earl
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Wiggins is only 19 still.
Kevin Love played his whole rookie season at age 20.
Since Christmas he is averaging
21pts
5rebs
2.7 ast
50% FG
45% 3p
O he has been playing very well; however, they are 2-10. I'm just saying that it's too early for those saying he will be one of the greats of all time.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:13 pm to buckeye_vol
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they are 2-10.
No Kevin Martin
No Ricky Rubio
No Pekovic
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:14 pm to RTR America
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At this point I'd say his floor is Paul George
Meh. I don't think using Paul George as his ceiling or floor is very reasonable. I would say as of right now, Paul George would be a good baseline. It's 50/50 whether he will be better or worse.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:16 pm to RTR America
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No Kevin Martin
No Ricky Rubio
No Pekovic
They are definitely not at full strength; however, while that definitely hurts them in terms of their wins and losses, I think they it may have benefited Wiggins individual stats a bit.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:20 pm to buckeye_vol
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They are definitely not at full strength; however, while that definitely hurts them in terms of their wins and losses, I think they it may have benefited Wiggins individual stats a bit.
I'd agree if he was doing what he is doing inefficiently, like Kobe's early season numbers.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:24 pm to RedRifle
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:25 pm to buckeye_vol
are you a Cavs fan? who would you rather?
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:30 pm to chRxis
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are you fricking kidding?
Trailblazers passing on Jordan, was, is, and forever will be the worst decision in the history of the NBA...
/thread
The Trailblazers kept Bowie.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:33 pm to BayouBengals03
well it's not exactly the Cavs' decision whether they keep Love...
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:34 pm to Nonetheless
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July 11, 1996: Kobe Bryant traded by the Charlotte Hornets to the Los Angeles Lakers for Vlade Divac.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:36 pm to chalmetteowl
They knew that going in.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 4:38 pm to chalmetteowl
They should probably try to get what they can for him now. Hell, maybe trade him to Philly for Noel or Embiid and a draft pick to boot.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 4:44 pm
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