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re: Andrew Wiggins is starting to become a player you just can't miss
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:17 pm to BayouBengals03
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:17 pm to BayouBengals03
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Isn't his defensive +/- greatly skewed because of his rebounding
It probably is, but I'm just saying that Wiggins has a long ways to go (that's a given) and may be benefiting from the same factors (poor team, little pressure) that Love benefited from while in Minnesota. Furthermore, Bennet is really a nonfactor in that trade, for those saying he provides "quality" minutes.
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Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:18 pm to PrimeTime Money
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OKC trades future MVP candidate James Harden for Jeremy Lamb, 1 year of Kevin Martin, and a draft pick which is Steven Adams.
Awful comparison, he would have walked after the year and they would have gotten nothing.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:18 pm to RedRifle
Cleveland is just snakebitten. If they'd have kept Wiggins he'd probably have blown out his knee in December, Love would be a legit MVP candidate wherever he wound up, and everybody would be saying the same things as they are now. 
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:19 pm to TheSexecutioner
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What does that even mean? It's +/-. It just tracks how many points your team scores vs the other team.
I understand this.
I thought what he was using was some other kind of metric.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:20 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Awful comparison, he would have walked after the year and they would have gotten nothing.
Bingo.
Really all other personnel decisions will be trumped by this one if Love leaves.
At least Detroit got to keep Darko.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:20 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Awful comparison, he would have walked after the year and they would have gotten nothing.
that doesnt make it any betterPosted on 1/18/15 at 12:21 pm to Lester Earl
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that doesnt make it any better
I think he was just speaking on the fact they felt they HAD to trade him.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:23 pm to Woopigsooie20
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Awful comparison, he would have walked after the year and they would have gotten nothing.
They got essentially nothing for Harden in the trade.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:26 pm to BayouBengals03
You think wiggins is a top 15 player ever?
Wtf?
Wtf?
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:26 pm to Woopigsooie20
You guys don't remember the situation. He was negotiating his extension with okc and they low balled him $60m vs the $80 Hou offered after the trade. They (okc) gave him an hour to accept their offer.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:26 pm to Dr. Shultz
I think Wiggins is going to be a top 15-20 player ever, yes.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:28 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:He could very well go down as one of the top 15 players, but there is no objective evidence to support this as a likely possiblity at this time.
I think Wiggins is a top 15 player ever, as I've said countless times. I'm definitely not doubting his abilities or capabilities.
This post was edited on 1/18/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:30 pm to buckeye_vol
It's an opinion based off of his skill set and athletic ability.
I am confident he will be a great, great player.
Obviously, there are things that could sidetrack his career even if he ends up being great, such as injury.
I am confident he will be a great, great player.
Obviously, there are things that could sidetrack his career even if he ends up being great, such as injury.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:31 pm to Nonetheless
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They got essentially nothing for Harden in the trade.
Well, Steven Adams is developing very nicely in year two. We'll see how he continues in a few years, but his ceiling in very high and many think he'll turn into a premier defensive stopper.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:31 pm to RedRifle
Everybody is so sold on Wiggins becoming this bonafide superstar. I am not. I think he will become a really good player. Top 15 in NBA easily. Top 15 of all time? I don't see it at all
That being said, I think ?the love acquisition gives them a chance to be better and compete for a championship now. As bad as Love has played this year, he is still a much better player than Wiggins and Bennett combined at this point.
That being said, I think ?the love acquisition gives them a chance to be better and compete for a championship now. As bad as Love has played this year, he is still a much better player than Wiggins and Bennett combined at this point.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:33 pm to BayouBengals03
meh I doubt he goes down as a top 50 player. He will be good though but I think his ceiling is more Paul George. Not Kobe.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:33 pm to RedRifle
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You guys don't remember the situation. He was negotiating his extension with okc and they low balled him $60m vs the $80 Hou offered after the trade. They (okc) gave him an hour to accept their offer.
They weren't going to offer max contract to a guy coming off the bench. He made it clear he was going to walk after the year.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:34 pm to KillerNut9
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Well it was LeBron's decision. So yeah, frick that guy.
Letting him play GM last time didn't work so well
I love the fail
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:34 pm to BayouBengals03
Fair enough. At one point he was next Lebron James prior to college based on his "ability." Now even after a year of college (he is pretty young though), he's not having a can't miss rookie season, neither by individual statistics nor team success (40 wins last year; to one of the worst teams in league), albeit many of be team variables are out of his control.
Posted on 1/18/15 at 12:35 pm to Dr. Shultz
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He will be good though but I think his ceiling is more Paul George.
He's more athletic than Paul George. That right there makes his ceiling higher.
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