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re: Andre Johnson reportedly no longer wants to be a Texan
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:43 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:43 pm to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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since he didnt like his old deal anymore, we tore it up and gave him:
They didn't exactly tear it up, and he again signed to an EXTREMELY team friendly deal:
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Unlike other high end receivers Johnson’s contract contained escalator clauses that, if earned, would push his average contract value over the first five years of the deal to $50 million, thus matching Fitzgerald’s annual value of $10 million a season. To reach the full numbers Johnson would be required to finish in the top 5 in any of a number of receiving categories. Johnson ended up earning all but $2.2 million of the escalators. In addition Johnson stood to lose at least $1 million a season in the 2012 to 2014 seasons if he held out his services.
While the contract did earn Johnson some added guarantees they paled in comparison to other players and Johnson could still have easily been released after the 2011 or 2012 seasons. He was one of the best bargains in the NFL- a top quality player with almost no ability to hold out and playing under reasonable salary cap allocations. The Texans would make a mess of his contract over the years with constant restructures (his contract was reworked every year for cap relief), but the base deal was extremely team friendly.
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:45 pm to wildtigercat93
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well that was fricking stupid
I agree. He shouldn't have trusted the Texans
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I don't know of any Saints fan who would take Jimmy Graham over Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson, AJ Green, Julio Jones, etc
Lester earl
He made that thread during the season before the Patriots game. No way he believed that after the season ended
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:46 pm to TigerBait1127
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He made that thread during the season before the Patriots game. No way he believed that after the season ended
He kept up with the schtick throughout the season, those were some glorious bumps though
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:47 pm to wildtigercat93
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He kept up with the schtick throughout the season, those were some glorious bumps though
Well he's Lester Earl
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:47 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I don't blame him
yeah no kidding
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:48 pm to TigerBait1127
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I don't know of any Saints fan who would take Jimmy Graham over Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson, AJ Green, Julio Jones, etc
Calvin Johnson and AJ Green are the only ones I'd possibly want over Jimmy in that list.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:49 pm to Brageous
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Calvin Johnson and AJ Green are the only ones I'd possibly want over Jimmy in that list.
You think Jimmy Graham is better than Brandon Marshall, Larry Fitzgerald, and Julio Jones?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:49 pm to Brageous
double post
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/10/14 at 2:50 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I love my Texans, but I'm on Andre's side here. I wonder if he leaves and wins a Super Bowl with someone else if he will enter the HOF with them. That'd be sad.
This. And you really cant blame him. He's at the tail end of his career and Texans are clearly in a rebuilding stage, and he know it. He is probably one of, if not THE most underrated WR ever because he was a Texan his whole career. Could you imagine if he played with Manning, Brady, Rodgers or Brees? He'd be a first-ballot HOF IMHO if he spent his entire career with a team and QB worth a shite.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:05 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I'm not on Andre Johnson's side. He signed a contract. He's not holding up his end of the agreement.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:22 pm to Ostrich
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The Texans would incur $12 million in dead money by trading or releasing Andre Johnson.
which no one usually does, but I would for decent draft picks. Draft picks are cheap for 4 years....
Alshon Jeffery 4 year 4.5 million for a 2nd round pick is nothing
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:29 pm to TigerBait1127
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Well he's Lester Earl
Dude definitely isn't afraid to ride out a failed argument.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 3:44 pm to Ostrich
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quote: I'm not on Andre Johnson's side. He signed a contract. He's not holding up his end of the agreement.
In most cases in the real world I would agree with this, but this is a business that can cut you at any moment and "guarenteed money" is a myth, regardless of what your contract says, so that doesn't really apply IMO.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 4:11 pm to AngryBeavers
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He's been nothing but a consummate professional in Houston
Yes.
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Except for trying to force a trade now by threatening to not show up for work.
Sometimes enough is enough.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 4:39 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I love my Texans, but I'm on Andre's side here. I wonder if he leaves and wins a Super Bowl with someone else if he will enter the HOF with them. That'd be sad.
He'd undoubtedly enter as a Texan.
Rod Woodson won his only SB as a Raven and he went in as a Steeler.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 5:03 pm to Brageous
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Calvin Johnson and AJ Green are the only ones I'd possibly want over Jimmy in that list.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:22 pm to Brageous
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I don't know of any Saints fan who would take Jimmy Graham over Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Andre Johnson, AJ Green, Julio Jones, etc
Would take Jimmy Graham over Julio and Brandon Marshall.. and I reallly like Brandon Marshall. Not sure on AJ Green atm, but it's close.
I would absolutely take Jimmy Graham over Andre Johnson though right now.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:27 pm to SouljaBreauxTellEm
What's Houston going to want for him? Browns have an extra first rounder. That seems real steep though.
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:31 pm to Prominentwon
bring him to NO
Posted on 7/10/14 at 6:41 pm to Feral
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He'd undoubtedly enter as a Texan. Rod Woodson won his only SB as a Raven and he went in as a Steeler.
Football players don't go in with a certain team. They just get in the hall
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