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re: Alabama 2008-present, greatest run in CFB history no DOUBT?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:06 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:06 pm to LNCHBOX
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GTFO with this bullshite. We deserved to be there before anyone. What a fricking joke of a fan you are.
The outcome of that game disagrees.
And you can never change that.
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Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:06 pm to bamafan425
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And if Nebraska had an extra game to schedule back in the 90's, it would be a non-BCS school. Just the way of the world with 12 game schedules.
And they'd have 5 more wins putting them at 65-3 in 5 years compared to Bama's 59-7 record over the last 5 seasons. Even with out those extra fluff games they have more wins than Bama with their added fluff wins (60 to 59).
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:08 pm to theunknownknight
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The outcome of that game disagrees.
Oh look, a hindsight argument. Who should have been there in our place?
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And you can never change that.
Too bad that has nothing to do about deserving to be in the game. Dumbass.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:09 pm to bamafan425
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ou did your best to make each of our years look like the easiest schedule known to man and I refuted that with actual numbers and respected links instead of biased opinion.
Is this the best run ever? Hell if I know and hell if I care. I'm enjoying it for what it is and don't give a damn if it's the "best ever".
If you read, I referenced that Bama played one mediocre to above average OOC opponent per year in the parts they controlled, not post-season.
I also was responding to Ghazi claiming this run was the best ever, not you.
Bama's schedule has been above average for most teams, but Sagarin's ranking is and always has been an utter joke when it comes to SOS.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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Oh look, a hindsight argument. Who should have been there in our place?
The way we played...VANDY would have put up a better fight. Use whatever you want to attack Bama as an LSU fan...but you're going full on retard if you choose the 2011 championship to state your case.
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Too bad that has nothing to do about deserving to be in the game. Dumbass.
Did we deserve to get our butts kicked? Why or why not?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:11 pm to Geauxgurt
Why discount who was played in the postseason?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:20 pm to bamafan425
Because you are evaluating things the teams controlled. In their bowl games Nebraska played:
1993 - FSU (#1) and lost by 2 points.
1994 - Miami (#3) and won
1995 - beat UF (#2) and won
1996 - Lost to VT (#9)
1997 - beat Tennessee (#3) by 25 points
Fact remains that all of those teams they played were as good as any team Bama faced.
So I looked at Regular season scheduling to evaluate it. Again, even with the 5 extra rent-a-wins, Bama's win total doesn't match Nebraska's.
1993 - FSU (#1) and lost by 2 points.
1994 - Miami (#3) and won
1995 - beat UF (#2) and won
1996 - Lost to VT (#9)
1997 - beat Tennessee (#3) by 25 points
Fact remains that all of those teams they played were as good as any team Bama faced.
So I looked at Regular season scheduling to evaluate it. Again, even with the 5 extra rent-a-wins, Bama's win total doesn't match Nebraska's.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:25 pm to Ghazi
unanimous? no. but they're pretty close. my biggest hiccup with calling this current Bama run the GOAT is how they've faired when they've played truly worthy opponents. because just looking at their schedule it was full of a bunch of nobodies and pretenders over the past several years.
truly "big" games under Saban:
#3 LSU '07 - L
#3 UGA '08 - W
#2 Florida '08 - L
#1 Florida '09 - W
#2 Texas '09 - W
#2 Auburn '10 - L
#1 LSU '11 - L
#1 LSU '11 - W
#5 LSU '12 - W
#15 TAMU '12 - L
#3 UGA '12 - W
so 6-5 in big games .. I'd like to see that be more dominant.
truly "big" games under Saban:
#3 LSU '07 - L
#3 UGA '08 - W
#2 Florida '08 - L
#1 Florida '09 - W
#2 Texas '09 - W
#2 Auburn '10 - L
#1 LSU '11 - L
#1 LSU '11 - W
#5 LSU '12 - W
#15 TAMU '12 - L
#3 UGA '12 - W
so 6-5 in big games .. I'd like to see that be more dominant.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:27 pm to Ghazi
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Is this unanimously agreed upon that we are in the middle of the greatest dynasty in the history of college football?
Oklahoma won like 55 straight games the 50's. when Bama does this get back with me. Other than that its pretty impressive. BTW GHAZI =
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:27 pm to Rohan2Reed
Forgot ND and TAMU this year.
Edit: and if you include #15 TAMU for a loss, why not top 15 for wins?
Edit: and if you include #15 TAMU for a loss, why not top 15 for wins?
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:31 pm to bamafan425
I went by my own judgment based on who I thought were truly worthy opponents. I include TAMU but not ND in my list.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:32 pm to Rohan2Reed
In that case,
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:35 pm to Ghazi
A lot of people will point out the 68 wins and say that's great. Some will say 3 NC's in 4 years is pretty good. A lot of the haters will point out the 7 loses. The haters will go back to the 1930's to prove this Alabama program isn't as great as a pre WWII program. Get a grip. Guess what? Alabama was winning Rose Bowl championships back then too. Alabama has always been. This is just another of many great era's in Alabama history. Alabama is better than USC, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Miami and Nebraska. And no team in the SEC comes close to the Tide's history. Being a good team for 10 years is awesome. Many teams have good runs. However, Bama has been great for over a century.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:38 pm to dukke v
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Oklahoma won like 55 straight games the 50's
were black people even playing back then?
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:43 pm to Funky Tide 8
“USC was favored in 58 consecutive games from 2003 to 2007, the longest streak in the BCS era.
Matt Leinart and the Trojans were 3.5 pt underdogs at Auburn in the 2003 season opener and it wasn’t until a road trip to Eugene in 2007 they were dogged again."
Matt Leinart and the Trojans were 3.5 pt underdogs at Auburn in the 2003 season opener and it wasn’t until a road trip to Eugene in 2007 they were dogged again."
This post was edited on 10/17/13 at 5:44 pm
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:44 pm to Ghazi
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3 national titles
But, but, but, COLT MCCOY GOT HURT! McCoy would have sliced up the Bama defense!
And Bama, despite clearly being the best team in the country, didn't deserve to play for the title in 2011! Oklahoma State and their lack of a defense clearly was a better team!
And in 2012 Bama played such a weak sauce schedule they shouldn't have even been allowed to play in the BCS!
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:46 pm to DallasTiger11
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Not even the best that season.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:53 pm to DallasTiger11
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Utah isn't a blemish
It is.
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How about losing the Game of the Century at home?
Stupid decisions to kick long FGs kicked ourselves, LSU was a great team, but 1/9 proved 11/15 was a fluke.
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Or the next year to A&M?
Lost to arguably the best on the field player in CFB history.
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Not saying Alabama doesn't deserve the praise they do because they really have been amazing, but they have lost two November home games in back-to-back seasons
And hasn't lost on the road in three years, plus two dominating BCS Title performances.
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f the cards fall differently (such as Oregon, Oklahoma State, and Kansas State not choking)
Almost every season ever has had something like this happen.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:54 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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And Bama, despite clearly being the best team in the country, didn't deserve to play for the title in 2011
Well they didn't.
Posted on 10/17/13 at 5:55 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Lost to arguably the best on the field player in CFB history.
Very arguably.
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