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Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:42 pm to Captain Ron
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According to Schefter yesterday, they HAD to implement some sort of initial fine.
Why? Common sense is not allowed anymore.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:43 pm to Choupique19
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This thread is about a fine, not a penalty.
All unnecessary roughness penalties are fined. We just never hear about them.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:44 pm to Choupique19
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Why? Common sense is not allowed anymore.
They have a set of fines based on actions on the field.
If they had not fined Brooks, it would have seriously undermined future fines and players would have used the 'non-fine' as a basis to totally reduce theirs to 0.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:45 pm to windshieldman
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The pic you posted his hand is touching the helmet. In NFL, a hand going anywhere near the head of a qb while in pocket is a penalty. Your own picture proves it's a penalty.
The pic he posted also is from after the contact to the neck...Brees didnt fumble until after he was smacked in the adams apple.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:46 pm to rondo
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The pic he posted also is from after the contact to the neck...Brees didnt fumble until after he was smacked in the adams apple.
..and after he was being ripped down by his helmet.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:46 pm to AngryBeavers
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All unnecessary roughness penalties are fined. We just never hear about them.
I'll admit I didn't know that, thought there had to be intent. I thought Corey White didn't receive a fine on his roughing the passer a few weeks ago.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:46 pm to Choupique19
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yet you are arguing that no infraction took place.
Link?
Idiot!!!
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Brees was not brought to the ground by the neck. Brees went down because he got hit from behind.
Both of those sentences are false BTW
idiot
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:46 pm to Captain Ron
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..and after he was being ripped down by his helmet.
This is the part that bothers me that isn't getting coverage. At the very last it was a face mask penalty.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:47 pm to Choupique19
I'm not sure if the hit itself was what drew the flag.
It could have been the take down??? I don't know.
he did get thrown down by his neck, basically.
its not like the referee who threw the flag was quoted on exactly why he threw the flag.
some calls go your way, some don't.
I could go back and list a few games where the Saints got the shite end of the stick on a questionable call.
take for instance the game against NE.
M. Jenkins was flagged for hitting a WR as a he lowered his shoulder into the WR's chest. The WR of course dropped the ball. It was on a 3rd down but here comes a flag. Boom. Mark off 15 yards and NE scores a TD later on instead of having to settle for a FG.
Then on the last play of the game, Galette was held clear as day as he rushed Tom Brady.
but... where was ESPN and the shite stirring pundits then?
It could have been the take down??? I don't know.
he did get thrown down by his neck, basically.
its not like the referee who threw the flag was quoted on exactly why he threw the flag.
some calls go your way, some don't.
I could go back and list a few games where the Saints got the shite end of the stick on a questionable call.
take for instance the game against NE.
M. Jenkins was flagged for hitting a WR as a he lowered his shoulder into the WR's chest. The WR of course dropped the ball. It was on a 3rd down but here comes a flag. Boom. Mark off 15 yards and NE scores a TD later on instead of having to settle for a FG.
Then on the last play of the game, Galette was held clear as day as he rushed Tom Brady.
but... where was ESPN and the shite stirring pundits then?
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:48 pm to LooseCannon22282
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but that's right... where was ESPN and the shite stirring pundits then?
Sucking off Brady for his great, clutch performance.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:52 pm to rondo
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Both of those sentences are false BTW
Wrong. Brees was going down before Brooks arm ended up around his neck. The initial hit from behind was what knocked Brees down, not Brooks grabbing Brees neck.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 2:55 pm to Choupique19
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The initial hit from behind was what knocked Brees down
If you cant tell the difference between "behind" and "front" things become pretty clear.
Consider being checked for retardation.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:01 pm to rondo
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If you cant tell the difference between "behind" and "front" things become pretty clear.
So the hit was in front. Doesn't change the fact that the Brees wasn't brought down by the neck. It was the hit impact of the hit.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:03 pm to Choupique19
I'm not a doctor...but I can say with all certainty that you are unequivocally without a doubt....retarded.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:04 pm to Choupique19
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So the hit was in front. Doesn't change the fact that the Brees wasn't brought down by the neck. It was the hit impact of the hit.
The hit started close to the neck region and he nearly ripped his helmet off on the continuation of the tackle.
They would have called that penalty on EVERY defensive player making a tackle similar to it.
Drew's chinstrap is over his nose.
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:32 pm to Sterling Archer
Doesn't matter if it was on purpose or not. Had Brooks let go of Brees" neck and not grabbed his chin (facemask) all the way to the ground, then nothing happens at all.
The initial hit, although brutal, wasn't the problem. Brooks trying (intentional or not) to remove Brees' head via his neck and holding his chin like a bowling ball was the problem.
The initial hit, although brutal, wasn't the problem. Brooks trying (intentional or not) to remove Brees' head via his neck and holding his chin like a bowling ball was the problem.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:32 pm to Choupique19
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Brees was not brought to the ground by the neck. Brees went down because he got hit from behind.
Now you are just making shite up to TRY to look less rediculous.
It's not working.
The defender was not trying to make a legal hit. He was trying to tackle Drew in the only way he could which was sticking his arm out and knocking him down with it as he was going by. Unfortunately for him, the arm contacted Drew "in the head and neck area" and then slid up to his neck, at which time he grasped the helmet/mask and dragged him to the ground.
It was definitely a foul and will be a foul for the rest of eternity. You might as well get used to it. The law suits of the former players has ensured it will never change back to your liking.
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:36 pm to LooseCannon22282
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I'm not sure if the hit itself was what drew the flag.
It could have been the take down??? I don't know.
he did get thrown down by his neck,
BINGO!
Posted on 11/20/13 at 3:38 pm to Choupique19
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Wrong. Brees was going down before Brooks arm ended up around his neck. The initial hit from behind was what knocked Brees down, not Brooks grabbing Brees neck.
Which is exactly why Brooks had no business taking Brees down by the neck and chin.
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