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Tax question about teenagers job
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:56 pm
My son had 2 jobs this year. One with a W2 with taxes withheld and the other was a 1099. All in all he made under $4000. Does he have to claim the 1099 income in order to get his refund?
Because if he does, he may owe taxes for the 1099 income.
Need advice please.
Because if he does, he may owe taxes for the 1099 income.
Need advice please.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:58 pm to GTD
Why would he not claim the 1099 income?
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:58 pm to GTD
Yes, he needs to claim the 1099. He may have deductible expenses to offset income, however.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:00 pm to Tigerpaw123
I was told that if he made unde $4k he would not have to claim that income
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:11 pm to GTD
He is responsible for his "payroll" taxes of the 1099. Which is probably what you're seeing when you say "he may have to pay if I include that".
The 1099 is going to be reported to the IRS by whoever paid him, so just do it right. No reason to teach your child to be a tax cheat.
The 1099 is going to be reported to the IRS by whoever paid him, so just do it right. No reason to teach your child to be a tax cheat.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 10:54 pm to GTD
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I was told that if he made unde $4k he would not have to claim that income
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GTD
You were incorrectly informed by the person you were told by. The issuer of the 1099 is going to report that they paid your son the money. This is because they don't want to run afoul of tax laws.
So what that means is that if your son files for his Taxes, the IRS will have a flag that says that his SSN has a 1099 for Self-Employed wages while not claiming any additional income from that source. From there, it's a roll of the dice.
Tell him to pay the taxes as he goes next go around or not take the 1099 job. You may also want to talk to your son about the kind of work he did. If he answered phones identifying as the employer on the 1099, or customers were made to think he worked for the company and not clearly as a contractor, and he wasn't required to sign a non-compete, or he wore clothing or uniforms that identified him as the 1099 Employer, or was instructed to identify himself as an employee of the 1099 employer, then the Employer may be flirting with issues that are surrounding Misclassified Workers in order to avoid paying payroll taxes on legitimate employees.
But that's a bit of a time-consuming, arcane path to go down for what amounts to a few hundo in tax money that he may or may get a bit back of. For now, tell him to claim his income, pay if he owes, and not take jobs that pay cash if he doesn't have the discipline to save and pay quarterly or set up the right situation so he reduces his tax liability the next go around.
My advice: Don't let him young people take 1099 work during the Summer without you having the ability to withhold taxes for them or them being the types of kids that have the discipline to do it themselves. It works out crappy like this all the time.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 8:20 am to GTD
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I was told that if he made unde $4k he would not have to claim that income
You only have to send a 1099 if the contractor made over $600 per year, not sure where someone got that $4k number from.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 6:37 pm to GTD
He better file. You don't want your kid getting IRS notices.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 10:04 pm to GTD
If you can afford it open up an IRA for him in the amount that he made.
Posted on 3/30/16 at 10:36 pm to GTD
Kids get a standard deduction that will wipe out the income tax liability.
What was the split between that 1099 income and the W-2 income? He may owe self-employment tax on the 1099. Maybe if he's lucky, the withheld taxes on the W-2 can offset completely the self-employment tax.
BTW, who the hell gives a kid a 1099? You mean to tell me a teenager has the sense necessary to run his own jobs, and to set his own control, which is a necessary component of treating someone as a contractor?
What was the split between that 1099 income and the W-2 income? He may owe self-employment tax on the 1099. Maybe if he's lucky, the withheld taxes on the W-2 can offset completely the self-employment tax.
BTW, who the hell gives a kid a 1099? You mean to tell me a teenager has the sense necessary to run his own jobs, and to set his own control, which is a necessary component of treating someone as a contractor?
Posted on 3/31/16 at 7:39 am to GTD
He's not going to owe any taxes at that income level anyway. No need to start cheating just yet...
Posted on 3/31/16 at 10:34 am to GTD
yeah, he should claim it
This post was edited on 3/31/16 at 10:35 am
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