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Target 401k totals by age
Posted on 12/31/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 12/31/23 at 5:12 pm
Would appreciate input on target 401k amounts for ages of 40, 50 and 60.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 5:24 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
CNBC says : LINK
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In general, you should aim to have 10 times your preretirement income saved by the time you reach age 67, according to Fidelity. That means that, theoretically, someone with a $100,000 salary should have $1 million saved by the time they retire.
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Here are Fidelity's age-based milestones you can use to track your progress:
By age 30: 1x your income
By age 40: 3x your income
By age 50: 6x your income
By age 60: 8x your income
Posted on 12/31/23 at 5:42 pm to HailToTheChiz
Thank you for the link. To flesh out my question a little better, to retire at say 50, and using $600k as target with that chart and withdrawal at a 4% rate, that brings in only $24k a year.
So seems like I’d need quite a bit more to even have 1/2 of my pre-retirement income replaced…appreciate thoughts/insight.
So seems like I’d need quite a bit more to even have 1/2 of my pre-retirement income replaced…appreciate thoughts/insight.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 5:46 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
I'll let others chime in but the CNBC link seems low to me. Obviously lifestyle and debt play a large role. If you were retiring at 50, I'd think you need 3x that amount.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 6:12 pm to HailToTheChiz
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I'll let others chime in but the CNBC link seems low to me.
Meh. I think that many of those calculators and guidelines are just not realistic. Especially when many high earners have huge jumps in salary later in life. Like if you become a surgeon in your early 30's how are you going to have that much at 40 with student loans, starting a practice etc.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 6:18 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
401K is one vehicle for investment…it isn’t really reflective of a total financial plan to guide for retirement.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 6:26 pm to lynxcat
I have a pension if I make it to the end plus the 401k with company match. Also have savings and try to live debt free.
401k is where I have largest chunk of my “wealth” and I’m maxing it out. Just trying to set a realistic target that will pay off in retirement.
401k is where I have largest chunk of my “wealth” and I’m maxing it out. Just trying to set a realistic target that will pay off in retirement.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 7:18 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
Estimate how much spend you’ll have in retirement annually. That’s the best bet to determine what you’ll need.
Those target retirement calculators are just another estimate!!
Those target retirement calculators are just another estimate!!
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 7:20 pm
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:35 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
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So seems like I’d need quite a bit more to even have 1/2 of my pre-retirement income replaced…appreciate thoughts/insight.
A lot will depend on your expenses. If your house is paid off and you dont spend a lot on things such as cars it will be different than if you are on the flip side. Another things to consider is what you plan to do when retires. Travel, expensive hobbies will cause numbers to go north.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 8:36 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
Are you going to withdraw with a penalty for 9 years?
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:05 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
A 401k is a funny thing. You spend your entire working life obsessing over it, tracking it and focusing on what the company is putting in as a match. Then, when you reach the age when you can withdraw from it without penalty, you go to extraordinary lengths to avoid taking from it (so as to avoid a taxable event). Many die without having touched it.
By all means, max out your 401k to defer the taxation. But also build after tax wealth that you have the flexibility to actually use.
By all means, max out your 401k to defer the taxation. But also build after tax wealth that you have the flexibility to actually use.
This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 12/31/23 at 9:31 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
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Would appreciate input on target 401k amounts for ages of 40, 50 and 60
There are no targets for 401K amounts at 40 , 50, and 60. Everyone's "target amount" at those ages will be different depending on how much income they will need and for how long they will need it during retirement.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:14 pm to HailToTheChiz
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I'll let others chime in but the CNBC link seems low to me.
All of these are based on various assumptions - probably the biggest is that you carry a mortgage on your salary, but retire it before retiring from work.
Regardless, everyone's situation is different. I have a buddy who will get 3 separate government pensions, probably $11k to $12k a month (AND will be eligible for SS). Obviously, that cat, even in sunny Florida isn't going to need as much cash as someone who is looking at a 401k/savings to supplement social security.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 10:32 pm to Ace Midnight
I’m in similar position thanks to GOD…military/VA and civilian pensions.
After posting this, I think I failed to calculate pensions properly. Using the 4% formula for withdrawals, I would have to have $2.5 million in investments to pull what I’ll get in annual pension without touching 401k.
Guess 30 years of sacrifice was worth it. Thank you all for helping me dive deeper.
After posting this, I think I failed to calculate pensions properly. Using the 4% formula for withdrawals, I would have to have $2.5 million in investments to pull what I’ll get in annual pension without touching 401k.
Guess 30 years of sacrifice was worth it. Thank you all for helping me dive deeper.
Posted on 12/31/23 at 11:34 pm to RED DAWN REDUX
So I will have a paid off house and 7k a month coming in once I retire. I already have zero debt besides my house note but that will go away a decade before I retire. This will be plenty for me
Posted on 1/1/24 at 6:45 am to achenator
quote:This. I finally hit my peak of earnings in my mid 40's.Could finally afford to Max out 401k. Getting to that peak takes time with family , bills, climbing work ladder etc... Hoping to put 15 more years in and have enough to live comfortably by 65. The only major bill i have is the mortgage 100k left on that but with 26 years left on the loan and a 30 year rate at 2.25% no real rush to pay off. Just got to keep current employer happy for a few more years.
Meh. I think that many of those calculators and guidelines are just not realistic. Especially when many high earners have huge jumps in salary later in life. Like if you become a surgeon in your early 30's how are you going to have that much at 40 with student loans, starting a practice etc.
This post was edited on 1/1/24 at 6:59 am
Posted on 1/1/24 at 9:12 am to FLObserver
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This. I finally hit my peak of earnings in my mid 40's.Could finally afford to Max out 401k. Getting to that peak takes time with family , bills, climbing work ladder etc... Hoping to put 15 more years in and have enough to live comfortably by 65. The only major bill i have is the mortgage 100k left on that but with 26 years left on the loan and a 30 year rate at 2.25% no real rush to pay off. Just got to keep current employer happy for a few more years
Pretty similar situation. I'll probably never make a whole lot more than I'm making right now at almost 46. But I can afford to save a lot more now than I could 10 years ago. We don't really have a lot of debt other than a mortgage. Still have one more to put through college though.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:35 am to RED DAWN REDUX
dude
what are your expenses going to be in retirement???
when your income equals or exceeds your expenses you are retired.
going by some sum of money does not mean shite if you have bills that outweigh your passive/portfolio incomes.
what are your expenses going to be in retirement???
when your income equals or exceeds your expenses you are retired.
going by some sum of money does not mean shite if you have bills that outweigh your passive/portfolio incomes.
Posted on 1/1/24 at 10:38 am to fallguy_1978
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But I can afford to save a lot more now than I could 10 years ago.
well yeah. my primary house and another property was paid off 12 years ago and i paid off 4 cars in that time span. it makes a HUGE difference now in money you have to invest and expand business. has really helped since i am a RE investor.
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