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Taleb goes into self-imposed exile

Posted on 11/30/09 at 8:16 pm
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 8:16 pm
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What I am seeing and hearing on the news -- the reappointment of Bernanke -- is too hard for me to bear. I cannot believe that we, in the 21st century, can accept living in such a society. I am not blaming Bernanke (he doesn't even know he doesn't understand how things work or that the tools he uses are not empirical); it is the Senators appointing him who are totally irresponsible -- as if we promoted every doctor who caused malpractice. The world has never, never been as fragile. Economics make homeopath and alternative healers look empirical and scientific.

No news, no press, no Davos, no suit-and-tie fraudsters, no fools. I need to withdraw as immediately as possible into the Platonic quiet of my library, work on my next book, find solace in science and philosophy, and mull the next step. I will also structure trades with my Universa friends to bet on the next mistake by Bernanke, Summers, and Geithner. I will only (briefly) emerge from my hiatus when the publishers force me to do so upon the publication of the paperback edition of The Black Swan.

Bye,
Nassim


LINK
This post was edited on 11/30/09 at 8:20 pm
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 9:06 pm to
Sounds like a whiny douche who criticizes everything and offers no alternative plan. Good deal.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51399 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 9:30 pm to
you know anything about him or just talking out your arse?
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 9:41 pm to
I read a few of his articles from the link
Posted by coolpapaboze
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Member since Dec 2006
15807 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

wizard of smart

You seriously need to consider changing your name.
Posted by Tiger4Ever
Member since Aug 2003
36702 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

wizard of smart


This screen name needs to be taken from you and reserved for Taleb's joining the Money Talk board.
Posted by wizard of smart
Member since Feb 2009
1545 posts
Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:10 pm to
Good one.

I take it you folks hang on to this guy's every word because he wrote a book about a black swan. What's the point of reading about a black swan if you can't see them coming anyway, much less spending part of your life writing about it. Sounds like an a-hole

Anyway, from here
quote:

Companies who made mistakes and fragilized the system are being subsidized by the countercyclical ones who make it more robust.

Sucks, but how are you going to fix it without causing pain for everyone?

From JT's link

quote:

I need to withdraw as immediately as possible

But not before I write this
quote:

bet on the next mistake by Bernanke, Summers, and Geithner

What a pompous a-hole
quote:

(briefly) emerge from my hiatus

To promote his book and his self. Looks like he's got a few followers hook, line, and sinker
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:52 am to
quote:

What's the point of reading about a black swan if you can't see them coming anyway,




quote:

Sucks, but how are you going to fix it without causing pain for everyone?


Why should the goal be pain for no one?

quote:

What a pompous a-hole


That will make a shite ton of money doing so.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 10:00 am to
quote:

Taleb goes into self-imposed exile
Don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Don't let the door hit you in the arse on your way out.


It won't matter. If it does hit him, he'll just fall face forwards into the hundreds of millions of dollars that Universa made last year.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 10:51 am to
Doubtful. I'm willing to bet he doesn't have millions of dollars on the floor just waiting for him to fall.

At any rate, he didn't get any of my money....
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 10:52 am
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 1:32 pm to
I like his views, but he's sounding a little bitchy here.

Why so much drama, Taleb?
Posted by Reauxhan
Los Angeles
Member since Sep 2005
169 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

I take it you folks hang on to this guy's every word because he wrote a book about a black swan. What's the point of reading about a black swan if you can't see them coming anyway, much less spending part of your life writing about it. Sounds like an a-hole


Agreed he's a pompous arse, but his points regarding black swans seem to be way over your head. He tries to capitalize on mispricing of risk in a world dominated by models based on normal distributions. (Not that he's necessarily perfect at implementing his plans - he somehow didn't make money in the market panic after 9/11.)

As for his offering no solutions, google "Ten principles for a Black Swan proof world." You may need at FT.com subscription, but he lays out 10 policy prescriptions. They're very 30,000-foot type views, but still much better than what we've gotten thus far, in my opinion.
Posted by sneakytiger
Member since Oct 2007
2472 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:33 pm to
I'm a big fan of the Black Swan and most of his views, but this seems a little childish, even for Taleb. It's like he's a child having a temper tantrum... "NO! I'm taking MY TOYS and GOING HOME!"

*storms off*

Seriously, suck it up big guy, it infuriates me too, but we've got to keep up the good fight.

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for men of good conscience to remain silent."

-Thomas Jefferson

This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 9:34 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9204 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 3:52 pm to
Maybe Taleb is tired of supposedly astute practitioners getting it wrong:

We Don't Quite Know What We Are Talking About
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 4:37 pm to
From your link:
quote:

Finance professionals....seem to confuse mean absolute deviation with standard deviation, causing an underestimation of 25% with theoretical Gaussian variables.

Who could ever get confused by that!?!
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9204 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 4:42 pm to
Certainly not a layman.

It ties into your VaR post quite nicely I might add.
Posted by kfizzle85
Member since Dec 2005
22022 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 4:58 pm to
Indeed.
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
9204 posts
Posted on 12/3/09 at 5:27 pm to
It's well worth reading and self explanatory, only 8 pages about a study of professionals and students. It's like the blind leading the blinder.
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