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re: Stone energy. Anyone with info
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:49 am to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:49 am to GREENHEAD22
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So picked some up after seeing the price and feeling lucky. Just checked the 2015 earnings report and realized I am going to need the luck. Anyone have any info on them?
The shoot first ask questions later investment strategy...I like it!
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:53 am to b-rab2
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Out of Lafayette, have some decent deep water asset(s).
They're primarily a shitty Marcellus player now.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 9:12 am to yellowfin
Definitely true, but it goes beyond this board. This board, I saw people saying they had to jump in "X" oil stock because it hit its 52 week low... and oil was $50-60+ then. Yeah, it's at a 52 week low, and there is a big reason why. Those stocks proceeded to set new 52 week lows.
Elsewhere, I recently saw people jumping in SUNE because it was so low. Yep, it is low, but that is because they are producing a loss and have a boatload of debt (enough that bankruptcy is a very high possibility).
People put a lot of research into most purchases, like cars, food, and clothes. They make good decisions after doing that research. But for some reason, people don't do the same for their stocks. Maybe they think the research is just too esoteric to do, I don't know. But not researching a company before buying stock for the long term is equivalent to buying a used car without looking it over first - you might come out alright, but you might find you need a new engine, or there could be some issue in between.
Elsewhere, I recently saw people jumping in SUNE because it was so low. Yep, it is low, but that is because they are producing a loss and have a boatload of debt (enough that bankruptcy is a very high possibility).
People put a lot of research into most purchases, like cars, food, and clothes. They make good decisions after doing that research. But for some reason, people don't do the same for their stocks. Maybe they think the research is just too esoteric to do, I don't know. But not researching a company before buying stock for the long term is equivalent to buying a used car without looking it over first - you might come out alright, but you might find you need a new engine, or there could be some issue in between.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:49 am to Omada
What's your take on exxi? Think they'll file for bankruptcy?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 11:46 am to lathoroughbred
I haven't looked at EXXI in a while, but I think so. They had a lot of wasteful spending in everyday activities that were possible due to $100 oil. They also paid a premium on new properties. It seemed they had a desire to be one of the big boys and wanted to spend like them, and it put them in debt that they probably can't crawl out of. Plus, since they are an offshore producer, their costs are a bit higher than land producers. They have been selling assets to keep afloat, but they definitely aren't getting what they paid for them. I think the company is a lost cause at this point.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:00 pm to cwill
Bored offshore and didnt drop more than I would in a weekend in the city give or take. Granted it was a bad idea, hopefully they get a little bump or a big one like the other week and I can get out.
Not usually so reckless but didnt spend much.
Not usually so reckless but didnt spend much.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:09 pm to Omada
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People put a lot of research into most purchases, like cars, food, and clothes. They make good decisions after doing that research. But for some reason, people don't do the same for their stocks. Maybe they think the research is just too esoteric to do, I don't know. But not researching a company before buying stock for the long term is equivalent to buying a used car without looking it over first - you might come out alright, but you might find you need a new engine, or there could be some issue in between.
Exactly this. Excellent post.
Lack of pre-purchase research (fundamental or even technical), combined with the psychologically driven need to "get even again" if a stock tanks, is a great way to rack up uncontrolled losses. Watch some of the old YouTube video interviews with WorldCom and Enron investors. The terms "double down" and "dollar cost average" were common, especially as those stocks were spiraling down. Those tactics only work if the business hasn't fundamentally changed. If it has, then you're just throwing good money after bad as you look at a price that's in the rearview mirror. The key is to be able to identify when that's the case. No one is perfect. But luck isn't a very good partner for most people.
As you said, people tend to have a pretty decent set of rules for dealing with debt levels, budgets, buying houses, cars and any number of other things. But when it comes to stocks, it's pretty shocking how people are willing to throw thousands of dollars at gambles.
No offense intended toward the OP. Research doesn't guarantee success. And lack of research doesn't guarantee failure. But at least have some sort of methodology or rule set that drives your investment behavior. But if you're doing this instead of going to Vegas, well... have at it. No harm in gambling with your gambling money.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 1:09 pm to GREENHEAD22
Where are you Greenhead?
Posted on 3/24/16 at 3:57 am to b-rab2
Still with SLB, on the Rowan Resolute for APC.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:35 pm to b-rab2
Ive worked all there projects they have going, currently on a Caesar Tonga well, was on Heidelberg before this. Been on K2 and Lucius as well as others. We take care of all their work.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 1:10 pm to b-rab2
Completions, workovers, and P&As
Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:35 pm to TheIndulger
It hit my stop I had on at .90, watch this bitch jump to 3$ by the end of the week.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:37 pm to GREENHEAD22
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It hit my stop I had on at .90, watch this bitch jump to 3$ by the end of the week.
I'm watching carefully. If it goes any lower I'm probably cutting losses and bailing.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 2:44 pm to Brettesaurus Rex
This is a bummer. I know some guys from school who went to work there. Stone is one of the last oil and gas operators still headquartered in Lafayette.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 3:06 pm to TheIndulger
I'm probably gonna set a stop for .85 to avoid another giant downturn in the AM. I can't justify hanging on any lower than that. I'd love for it to bounce back but just not seeing much of any positive news lately.
Posted on 3/29/16 at 9:06 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Nice 15% drop to start the day
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