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South LA O&G Surface Lease

Posted on 3/4/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 3/4/23 at 3:17 pm
What is fair annual rental payment for proposed drill site in South LA? Proposed is $2,000 per acre which seems low.
Posted by Tshiz
Idaho
Member since Jul 2013
7580 posts
Posted on 3/4/23 at 6:53 pm to
350
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21260 posts
Posted on 3/5/23 at 9:34 am to
Single well or multi-well pad?
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6548 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 5:04 am to
Multi
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21260 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 9:45 am to
I know the economics in South LA are going to be much different than Permian or DJ for an operator’s ability to negotiate, damages too high could throw off their projections a bit.

However, maybe counter with something you believe is fair and also a per well payment.

Maybe something like 3500/ac and 15k per well drilled from the pad?
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6548 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:37 am to
Thanks for the response.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53004 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:22 pm to
Get a landman to review it for you so he can throw in his own kicker
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9148 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:39 am to
Truthfully the money that you are going to get isn't worth the eyesore and headache for your children down the road unless your land is out in the middle of nowhere and you have no plans for it. I wish that my family had told them no before I inherited the land.
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19603 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 6:45 am to


Those wells hit it will be. Assuming they are oil wells they stand to make some serious money.
Posted by Spitting Venom
Member since Sep 2013
1110 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:14 am to
It’s a surface lease
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19603 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:44 am to
Ahh, I missed that.

Yea I would think hard on leasing them surface rights.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 7:49 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21260 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Yea I would think hard on leasing them surface rights.


Well unless this is an off-lease location, or the oil & gas lease has some sort of “No Surface Operations” clause, then the operator might very well have the rights already to utilize the surface to drill and produce from that lease.

It’s usually smart business and relations strategy to try to work with the surface owner and come to a mutual agreement, even if you always have the right to force your way on. Louisiana is still a mineral dominant state. The mineral estate’s rights haven’t been as eroded away as in states like Colorado and California.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 7:54 am
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19603 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:10 am to
When you say off-lease location you mean the well pad in not over the mineral location?

This is what I was assuming unless the OP recently bought this land.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21260 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:28 am to
quote:

When you say off-lease location you mean the well pad in not over the mineral location?


Yep. Not within the geographical boundaries of the mineral lease.
This post was edited on 3/7/23 at 8:29 am
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19603 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:40 am to
Unless it changed recently mineral rights revert to surface owners in 10 years unless specifically sold.

Either this is recently purchased land or off-leased pad.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21260 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 8:52 am to
Or could be HBP from an older lease, maybe one with no Pugh Clause. Lots of speculation by us message board warriors.
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