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Slab question for building a house

Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:00 pm
Posted by jmh5724
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:00 pm
In the process of building and considering going with stained concrete in some areas of the house. People I've talked to who had it done went with a post tension slab. My builder is telling me it's unnecessary and only adds to cost. Is he just saying this because it affects his bottom line or should I take other people's advice?
Building in South Louisiana close to the river so alot of hard clay under the topsoil. TIA
Posted by barry
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:08 pm to
go ask this on the OT
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:13 pm to
For a number of years, not so much anymore, there were some problems with post-tension slabs and house pilings. Not a big issue anymore but just make sure your concrete guy knows what he is doing.
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:15 pm to
I know stained floors are trashy
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 2:15 pm to
We bought a home with stained concrete flooring ... Home does have a post tension slab. Not sure if needed.
Posted by geauxnc0308
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:09 pm to
All slabs crack, period. Crack does not mean failure. With that being said, post tension will crack less. Personally I think the hair line cracks give a stained floor more character. If seeing cracks in the slab will bother you, then post tension is what you want. Just note that even then you will still have/see cracks.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:29 pm to
My builder told me the same so we went with a regular slab. We have lots of stained concrete and it looks very cool.

Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:31 pm to
Post tension slab will make the slab more rigid overall, causing less cracks. Assuming your house is slab on grade rather then on piles, it's probably unnecessary- though that's also assuming you have adequate bearing capacity for soil, which for SELA is often questionable.

It's really a geotechnical engineering question, rather than a structural one.

Could be that the builder doesn't know how to do it or is worried he won't get the job if you insist on it. Ask a geotechnical for a site visit and/or soil borings if you're concerned about it.
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:45 pm to
quote:

We bought a home with stained concrete flooring ... Home does have a post tension slab. Not sure if needed.


This.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

went with a post tension slab


Coloring the concrete shouldn't have an effect on what type of slab you are using...
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 7:39 pm to
We went with post-tension because its South Louisiana. I used a higher PSI concrete and an additive that made it flash faster. The finisher broke his whirly-bird and ended up with some mess ups. I have basic hairline cracks, I have a sis-in-law whose builder said the same and sometimes you can stick an 8 penny nail in the cracks. In Ascension, you would need a compaction test and an engineer for the post tension. Usually, you use a post-tension contractor. If done wrong, the slab could falter, but a good contractor will not have this issue. I am glad I did it. Between the dry conditions and the rain I have areas of subsidence in my yard, but my house is on 4 feet of river sand and post-tension. No worries.
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:09 pm to
One builder tells me it'll add a few grand to the cost. Another recommends it and says it's cheaper than a conventional slab.
Posted by Rev1897
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:25 pm to
Are you doing pilings
Posted by jmh5724
Member since Jan 2012
2138 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 9:51 pm to
No pilings, just a dirt pad
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 5:20 am to
We really need an all things housing board
Posted by Who Me
Ascension
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 7:51 am to
You don't need a post tension slab. Whichever you pick they will both have cracks.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:59 am to
It costs me about 3k, but you use less concrete and steel. I don't think it was 1 to 1 though. However, the foundation is the one thing you shouldn't skimp on. So How much is your piece of mind worth.
Posted by lsufan1971
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 8:59 am to
One thing I considered is you can't anchor a safe to a post tension slab. I have a 64 gun safe in my man cave. If I would have went with post tension I wouldn't have been able to bolt it to the slab. Just something to consider.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 9:28 am to
You can, you can place anchors , or bolts during construction. I would try to drill through it, but really not an issue. There are areas of the grid that allow for that, you woud need to be really good at laying it out though. I think your safe is really what limits you there.
Posted by Rev1897
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/9/15 at 4:23 pm to
If you aren't doing pilings i'd do PT... seems like its worth it for the extra $4k
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