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Restraining order against bad home appraiser

Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:28 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7997 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:28 pm
I keep running into problematic home appraisers. 2 specifically that are clearly terrible at their job.

Is it possible to file a restraining order against these 2 to keep them from appraising any of my properties going forward?

Does this happen?
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7166 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:32 pm to
you can probably request the bank that is ordering the appraisals to not use certain appraisers, as long as it isn't too big of a list compared to the number of appraisers in the city.

Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
5844 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:32 pm to
I can understand 1 bad appraiser.

2 bad ones sounds like the issue may be with your expectations for the property?
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 1:35 pm
Posted by blueboxer1119
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
7997 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:39 pm to
Ive had 4 properties in a row come back with low appraisals.

I think they've been given marching orders to pump the breaks on home values. Some go to extremes.

Comps from 2+ yrs and 15 miles away. Ridiculous shite.

Ive done nearly 80 houses in 8 years and have never had this problem until 6 or 8 months ago, then boom....every appraisal since has come back low.

*all 4 houses were under contract for full price within 2 DOM.

I had a friend tell me this restraining order thing was common....which is why I brought the question here....
Posted by Hermit Crab
Under the Sea
Member since Nov 2008
7166 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

never had this problem until 6 or 8 months ago, then boom....every appraisal since has come back low.



That's with all appraisers these days. 2+ years ago they would look at the loan amount and LTV target and make it come out just more than it needed to be, now they are extremely conservative.

But if you have legitimate issues with an appraisal you should be able to go back with the reasons and numbers to back it up to request some changes. Some with dig their feet in, but a lot will be willing to update if you have good evidence.
Posted by jfw3535
South of Bunkie
Member since Mar 2008
4658 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 1:58 pm to
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I had a friend tell me this restraining order thing was common

Clearly your friend is not a lawyer. Pretty sure this is not how restraining orders work or what they're intended for.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14516 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 2:13 pm to
If everyone you meet is an a-hole........
Posted by agdoctor
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2004
3142 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 2:19 pm to
Based on current and projected interest rates the value of the properties should be much less than they were a year ago.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Based on current and projected interest rates the value of the properties should be much less than they were a year ago.


Values are not based on interest rates.
I've never seen an appraisal list interest rates in the sales comparison model.

Sales and only sales can dictate the market value of a home.

If the OP expects appraisers to be ignoring valid comps and ignoring them maliciously when presented with data, then the OP should go to the appraiser licensing board.

Something tells me that there is nothing malicious. But the OP just does not agree with the reasoning for ignoring sales data (comparing 2 story homes to 1 story homes. Comparing homes with over 15% variances in square footage, variances in style/age, or neighborhood).
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5514 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

Does this happen?


No. In addition to what people have said, you don't even come remotely close to meeting the legal requirements for obtaining a restraining order.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84886 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:23 pm to
quote:

Values are not based on interest rates. I've never seen an appraisal list interest rates in the sales comparison model.


You’re being intentionally obtuse.

Interest rates, more than anything else, drive home values.

ETA - in particular, larger moves upward in rates impact home prices the most.
This post was edited on 10/4/23 at 8:36 pm
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
14516 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:28 pm to
Kinda what I was thinking. High rates...low sales...low comps.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12348 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:41 pm to
No. I can’t imagine that you could get a restraining order prohibiting someone from appraising your properties. Appraisals can be done by searching the public records for comparables. Whether you like it or not, even your opponents in a court case can hire appraisers to testify against you. You can combat them by hiring your own appraisers.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37105 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 8:46 pm to
Our neighborhood has a ton of houses sitting on the market for months and not moving.

Sellers refuse to lower prices.

Appropriately priced homes meanwhile are selling in days.

My guess is OP expectations are not in line with current market reality.
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6217 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:02 pm to
Appraisals are one of the biggest scams in the finance industry.

Maybe annuities are are worst scam.

Change my mind
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15102 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

My guess is OP expectations are not in line with current market reality.


In most areas prices are rising. What is market reality these days

Home values fell for seven consecutive months beginning in July 2022, the first decline in more than a decade. Prices began to recover in February 2023 and by July, average home prices nationwide fully recovered to peak levels reached in mid-2022.

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/4/23 at 9:15 pm to
quote:

Appraisals are one of the biggest scams in the finance industry.


Your bank won't give you a loan unless an unbiased 3rd party does a professional assessment of collateral?

And that makes it a scam?
Posted by whodatigahbait
Uptown
Member since Oct 2007
1752 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Change my mind


Title insurance, especially on a re-fi, is the biggest scam in history.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73654 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 8:45 am to
Did you order the report with them directly?

Or did you use an AMC
If so call them and tell them to get them off there rolodex and ask for a new appraiser

Now sure how that could even happen
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25597 posts
Posted on 10/5/23 at 9:18 am to
quote:


Title insurance, especially on a re-fi, is the biggest scam in history.

Your lender won't give you a lower interest rate unless they can get an insurance policy that covers them if you do not properly own the home, and that's a scam?

How many times do you think that happened before lenders' title insurance became a requirement?
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