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Real Estate Question: Haggling a Foreclosure

Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:20 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:20 pm
Say I am looking at a home that the bank is asking $450k for and I offer them $350k.

I understand I am low-balling......the house has been bank-owned for 18months.

What are the realities in securing a price lower than asking?
Posted by TechDawg2007
Bawville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:21 pm to
Personally, I'd post this on the money board as well
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36373 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:21 pm to
Who gives a frick.. either they accept it or not... you've got nothing to lose.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

What are the realities in securing a price lower than asking?


quote:

bank-owned for 18months.


The reality is that it is a somewhat realistic expectation.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:25 pm to
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What are the realities in securing a price lower than asking?


I bought an executive McMansion that had been taken back from the bank twice, I low balled, they countered, I countered, and got it for about $75K less than they were asking, lived in it for four years, updated it, and sold it for about $200k more than I paid for it
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31888 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

I bought an executive McMansion that had been taken back from the bank twice, I low balled, they countered, I countered, and got it for about $75K less than they were asking, lived in it for four years, updated it, and sold it for about $200k more than I paid for it


THAT is my hope.

yank, I understand saying frick it.....that's why we may. No harm in trying.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 2:27 pm
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167141 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

the house has been bank-owned for 18months.



Truthfully they don't care how long they have owned it because their maintenance cost is offset by HUD, FHA, VA, or whomever. Trust me I manage lots of repos for banks.

There are a lot of factors that do go into what they will accept though. It's mostly creative accounting on their part and if they need some more write offs this quarter.

Bottom line is that it's your money and it doesn't hurt to ask and try to secure the lowest price possible.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
31888 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:29 pm to
Honestly, the asking price is already a steal as the comps are $600+.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76511 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:30 pm to
Write them a manifesto about why they should accept your offer.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:30 pm to
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THAT is my hope.

not only were they willing to negotiate price, I got them to go down every item on the inspector's punch list and make it right, and even a few things that I discovered after I moved in, it was actually easier than a conventional sale(individual to individual) good luck
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167141 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:32 pm to
Yea banks don't try to make money on the houses on the market because again any losses they show are offset by tax payers anyway. Truthfully though they may show a loss but in reality they are making money on them. Creative accounting.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Honestly, the asking price is already a steal as the comps are $600+.


it has to be if you're flipping it, good thing about these type of deals is that the bank is not emotionally invested, they just want it off their books
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

....the house has been bank-owned for 18months.

be preparded to wait and wait and wait before they even respond, much less counter.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:38 pm to
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be preparded to wait and wait and wait before they even respond, much less counter.




that wasn't my experience, the bank listed it with the realtor and the negotiations were pretty conventional, in fact there is legal protocol to be followed when making offers/counter offers
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9924 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:42 pm to
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it was actually easier than a conventional sale(individual to individual)

I call bullshite! You're trolling.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

You're trolling.


no I'm not, I've done quite a few deals like that and that was as smooth as any, I was in Louisiana at the time and the bank was LBA, I did three closings in one day(buying that house and selling two of mine,) and that was by far the easiest one, and as I said, they fixed everything I asked them to
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

Say I am looking at a home that the bank is asking $450k for and I offer them $350k.

I understand I am low-balling......the house has been bank-owned for 18months.

What are the realities in securing a price lower than asking?



Banks rarely extensively negotiate, you might get one or two counters but that's it.

I purchased my 4th foreclosure in January.

Banks like to underprice properties to get the sharks swimming and will often sell for much more than asking.

$100k is almost insulting unless it needs a shite ton of work.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:49 pm to
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yank, I understand saying frick it.....that's why we may. No harm in trying.



not necessarily, too low and you insult and depending on the person they may not counter out of spite. I have seen it happen.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:51 pm to
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be preparded to wait and wait and wait before they even respond, much less counter.



This happens a lot with short sales, almost customary.
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36373 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 2:52 pm to
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too low and you insult and depending on the person
The bank doesn't have feelings, slap dick.
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