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PMI question
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:23 am
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:23 am
My wife and I purchased our home in January of 2011. we refinanced in march of 2013. I contacted my mortgage company and they said now you have to have 75% loan value vs. appraisal to remove PMI? I thought the rule was always 80%?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:27 am to lsuCJ5
I don't know the answer to your question but I'm curious why you would not believe your own mortgage company who is in the mortgage loan business but you'd trust complete strangers on an anonymous message board to give you a correct answer??
Personally, I'd go with what my mortgage loan company says since that is their business.
I'll butt out now....
Personally, I'd go with what my mortgage loan company says since that is their business.
I'll butt out now....
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:36 am to LSURussian
I requested a response in writing and they listed 3 options. #1, write a check for the difference. #2 pay for an independent appraisal and if the loan to value is 80% or less, pmi will be removed. #3 loan value vs. current appraisal must be 75%. The appraisal is on the refi from 2013 was $248K and we think it should appraise now for $270k. I currently owe 208K
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:52 am to lsuCJ5
Some companies require 78% never heard of 75% though.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:58 am to lsuCJ5
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The appraisal is on the refi from 2013 was $248K and we think it should appraise now for $270k
Based on what? I doubt it appreciated $22K in 2 years. Perhaps certain neighborhoods in Orleans parish, but prices in many other areas of LA are softening, not increasing.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:04 am to hungryone
based on what they are selling for per sqft in my neighborhood. The previous owner made of a hell of a deal because he was relocated due to work and it was his last month of housing assistance. We have done some work to the house too. I called wells fargo and they said fannie mae now has a law that states if the loan is less than 5 years old the loan to appraisal has to be 75%. If the loan is older than 5 years, the ratio is 80%
This post was edited on 1/28/16 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/28/16 at 11:49 am to lsuCJ5
How much are you paying in pmi? We were paying $92/mth, the appraisal costs $400, house appraised for enough to remove pmi, saved $2000 after paying for the appraisal. Mortgage holder is Wells Fargo, very easy process.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:08 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
Did you have an FHA or conventional loan? I was told that with an FHA loan they do not take into account appraised costs, just the original apprasial that they have on thier file.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:25 pm to jammintiger
conventional loan. I believe we are paying a little less than $100 a month in pmi. Not the end of the world, but I would like for it to go away.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 12:35 pm to lsuCJ5
This is the first I've heard of 75%. I will not be happy if this is the case as I've been working pretty hard lately to get to 78%.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:03 pm to jammintiger
Conventional, only poors have FHA loans.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:08 pm to PhiTiger1764
I'll quote the document word for word:
canceling pmi based on the current value
you have the option to cancel pmi based on the current value and investor requirements.
For this option you must meet the following requirements:
1-you must reach the required LTV ratio of 75% based on the current appraisal value.
2-you must have had no 30 day late payments
3-you must have closed on your mortgage more than 2 years ago.
canceling pmi based on the current value
you have the option to cancel pmi based on the current value and investor requirements.
For this option you must meet the following requirements:
1-you must reach the required LTV ratio of 75% based on the current appraisal value.
2-you must have had no 30 day late payments
3-you must have closed on your mortgage more than 2 years ago.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:13 pm to lsuCJ5
I mean I believe they told you that. I just hope they are wrong and meant to put 78%. Are you with Wells Fargo?
Posted on 1/28/16 at 1:52 pm to PhiTiger1764
78% is the lowest I have ever read or heard about.
Doesn't matter how much the PMI is, the point is it`s money that is protecting the bank from you. I understand people have to have it when they don`t have enough of a down payment. I was paying it until I refinanced a few years ago. Now I apply it and the $ i'm saving from the refi towards the principle.
Doesn't matter how much the PMI is, the point is it`s money that is protecting the bank from you. I understand people have to have it when they don`t have enough of a down payment. I was paying it until I refinanced a few years ago. Now I apply it and the $ i'm saving from the refi towards the principle.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 3:12 pm to LSU999
quote:
78% is the lowest I have ever read or heard about. Doesn't matter how much the PMI is, the point is it`s money that is protecting the bank from you. I understand people have to have it when they don`t have enough of a down payment. I was paying it until I refinanced a few years ago. Now I apply it and the $ i'm saving from the refi towards the principle.
yes it is wells fargo. And I did plan to add what I am currently paying im PMI back to additional principal when it PMI goes way.
Posted on 1/28/16 at 10:32 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
I'm a poor my PMI is around $250 per month and would also like to get rid of it. Purchased my house in 2012 and its with Wells Fargo.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 8:00 am to Rize
Fannie Mae states on page 201-29 that if the loan is less than 5 years old, you must pay pmi.
Fanie Mae
Here is my biggest gripe. The original mortgage was under written by a smaller company in Baton Rouge. I saved all of the documents from the closing and found last night that PMI may be canceled after the loan to value reached 80%. I did not choose to have the loan bought out by wells fargo but it happened. I never knew about the 75% loan to value, it was not disclosed to me when I refinanced the house.
The 75% loan to value rule is a fannie mae rule, so how can wells fargo try to hold me to it? I have a friend who is a closing attorney and I called her to discuss but I am waiting for her to call back.
Fanie Mae
Here is my biggest gripe. The original mortgage was under written by a smaller company in Baton Rouge. I saved all of the documents from the closing and found last night that PMI may be canceled after the loan to value reached 80%. I did not choose to have the loan bought out by wells fargo but it happened. I never knew about the 75% loan to value, it was not disclosed to me when I refinanced the house.
The 75% loan to value rule is a fannie mae rule, so how can wells fargo try to hold me to it? I have a friend who is a closing attorney and I called her to discuss but I am waiting for her to call back.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:33 am to lsuCJ5
Never heard of 75% either. I was told at 78% PMI automatically falls off and at 80% it can also fall off with an appraisal to justify it.
Posted on 1/29/16 at 9:46 am to lsuCJ5
Now PMI never comes off just FYI
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